Solving for Speed on a Roller Coaster's Top of Hill

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A roller coaster car at the top of an 18-meter radius hill causes passengers to feel only 60% of their true weight, indicating a need to calculate the coaster's speed. The initial approach incorrectly applied centripetal force, leading to an erroneous speed of 10.3 m/s. After clarification, the correct method involves recognizing that the net force at the top is 40% of the weight, which adjusts the calculations. By applying the correct formula, the speed of the coaster is determined to be 8.4 m/s. This highlights the importance of accurately assessing forces in circular motion to solve physics problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


A roller coaster car is going over the top of a 18-m- radius circular rise. At the top of the hill, the passengers "feel light," with an apparent weight only 60% of their true weight. How fast is the coaster moving?

Homework Equations


I think F=mv^2/ (r)
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Attempt:
F=mv^2/r
(.6)g=v^2/r
(9.8*.6)r=v^2
5.88*18=v^2
v=10.3 m/s My answer is said to be wrong
 
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This is not advanced physics, so moving to the intro physics section.
 
SilverAu said:

Homework Statement


A roller coaster car is going over the top of a 18-m- radius circular rise. At the top of the hill, the passengers "feel light," with an apparent weight only 60% of their true weight. How fast is the coaster moving?

Homework Equations


I think F=mv^2/ (r)
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Attempt:
F=mv^2/r
(.6)g=v^2/r
(9.8*.6)r=v^2
5.88*18=v^2
v=10.3 m/s My answer is said to be wrong
You did not calculate what the question asks.
It's not the centripetal force which is 60% of the weight.
Draw a diagram with all the forces.
 
OK well if I am solving for the velocity of the moving coaster, how would I do that because I've drawn the diagram with forces and I don't see it.
 
Write Newton's second law for circular motion. The acceleration is the centripetal acceleration.
What is the expression for the net force at the top of the hill?
 
If they only felt 0.6 of their weight then the centripetal force on them is 1- 0,6= 0.4 of their weight.
 
Yeah I actually just figured it out, that is the only thing I messed up... Should be
F=mv^2/r
(.4)g=v^2/r
(9.8*.4)r=v^2
3.92*18=v^2
v=8.4m/s
Thanks for helping you guys
 
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