Solving for the Energy and Direction of Emitted Photons from a Moving Pion

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The discussion focuses on calculating the momentum, direction, and energy of two photons emitted from a moving neutral pion with a rest mass energy of 135 MeV and a kinetic energy of 270 MeV. Participants utilize conservation of energy and momentum equations to derive relationships between the variables involved, particularly focusing on the angles of emission and the momenta of the photons. A humorous exchange occurs regarding the notation of angles, but the main goal remains to solve for the unknowns in the equations presented. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying relativistic equations to find the desired quantities. Ultimately, the thread provides insight into the complexities of particle decay and photon emission in relativistic physics.
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The neutral pion is an elementary particle of the meson family that has a rest mass energy of 135 MeV. This particle is unstable and decays into two photons ("light particles" of no rest mass and energy E=pc). Consider now the following situation: a neutral pion has a kinetic energy of 270 MeV as measured in a given frame. Find the momentum, the direction of propagation and the energy of each of the two emitted photons, given that one of the photons is emitted in a direction perpendicular to the initial velocity of the neutral pion.

My solution: by conservation of energy Kpion+Mpion*c^2=(p1+p2)c^2
p1+p2=(270+135)/c=405/c

by conservation of momentum:

x-direction: Ppion=p1cos(theta1) + p2cos(theta2)=p2cos(theta2)
y-direction: 0=p1-p2sin(theta2)

For the pion we have Ppion*c^2=(E^2-mc^2)^0.5=4.498E-15*c^2

My problem now is solving for theta2. theta2=arctan(P2y/P2x)
I already know P2x=Ppion, but I can't get P2y.

Thanks.
 
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You have a system of 3 equations with 3 unknowns
p_{2}\cos \vartheta=P (1)

p_{2}\sin\theta=p_{1} (2)

p_{1}+p_{2}=\frac{K}{c}+Mc (3)

,where M is the rest mass of the neutral pion,K is the KE of the pion & P is the pion's (relativistic) momentum...

Solve the system & find the 3 unknowns...

Daniel.
 
Hi Daniel I am getting the following,

from (1): p2=P/cos(theta2)
from (2): p1=p2sin(theta2)

substitution in (3) yields p2sin(theta2)+P/cos(theta2)=K/c+Mc
and after a few manipulations I get tan(theta2)+
sec(theta2)=(K/c+Mc)/P I am not sure how to solve
for theta2.
 
Hint : take equation (1) squared plus equation (2) squared.
 
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That doesn't work...The "theta's" are different... :-p Cf. \theta to \vartheta.

It was a joke...They're the same.

Good advice... :smile:

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
That doesn't work...The "theta's" are different... :-p Cf. \theta to \vartheta.

:smile: lol that's hillarious.

Thanks to all for their kind help.
 
dextercioby said:
That doesn't work...The "theta's" are different... :-p Cf. \theta to \vartheta.

It was a joke...They're the same.

Good advice... :smile:

Daniel.

Were the "different" thetas a typo ? :wink:

Anyway, let me just work this out as I would do it.

Using Daniel's notation,

Square (1) and (2) and add :

p^2_2 = p^2_1 + P^2


p^2_2 - p^2_1 = P^2


(p_2 - p_1)(p_2 + p_1) = P^2 ---(4)

Put equation (3) into (4) and rearrange,

p_2 - p_1 = \frac{P^2}{\frac{K}{c} + Mc} ---eqn(5)

Take (3) + (5) :

2p_2 = \frac{P^2}{\frac{K}{c} + Mc} + \frac{K}{c} + Mc

and you can find p_2 and then p_1

How to get P^2 in terms of what's given in the question ? For that, I would use E^2 = P^2c^2 + m^2c^4

where E = K + mc^2. You're given K and the rest energy.

I'll leave the orig. poster to do the final simplifications.
 
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