Solving for the resistance in a Voltage Regulator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a 15V regulated power supply capable of delivering a maximum load current of 25 mA. Participants explore the circuit configuration, the role of the zener diode, and the implications of load resistance on current regulation.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is correct to assume that the zener current (Iz) is zero when the load current (IL) is at its maximum of 25 mA, suggesting that this might imply the zener diode is disconnected.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of operating the zener diode at or beyond its knee current (Izk) to ensure proper regulation at the zener voltage, indicating that the minimum zener current should be Izk even under maximum load conditions.
  • Concerns are raised about the specification of a fixed load resistance (RL), as this could limit the load current to a fixed value, making the maximum load current specification unworkable.
  • A participant suggests that the worst-case regulation scenario should be described in terms of voltage and current extremes, prompting further clarification on what those extremes might be.
  • Another participant provides information about the maximum regulator current and power dissipation, indicating a potential mix-up with another problem regarding the load resistance.
  • There is a proposal to consider the worst-case regulation scenario as occurring when the supply voltage decreases by 1V and the zener current equals the knee current (Izk).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of fixed load resistance and the conditions under which the zener diode operates. There is no consensus on the correct approach to determining the worst-case regulation scenario, as participants explore various interpretations and conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of maximum zener current and power dissipation values, which could affect the design considerations. The discussion also highlights the complexity of balancing load resistance with maximum current specifications.

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Homework Statement



Create a 15V regulated power supply capable of providing a maximum load current of 25 mA.

Circuit looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/fMtscbG.png?1ILmax (maximum load resistance) = 25mA

Izt (test current) = 20mA
Izk (knee current) = 25mA
rz = 11 Ω
Vz (nominal zener voltage at Izt)= 15V
Vs = 39V\pm1V
RL = 1kΩ
R = ?

Homework Equations



Vz = Vz0 + rz*Iz

The Attempt at a Solution



Vz=14.78 V

To find R I need to determine the total current in the circuit. I'm not sure whether it's correct to assume that the current Iz=0 when IL=25 mA. Since the load voltage is 25V when IL is at its max I thought it meant that the zener diode would be disconnected.
 
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Compare yours with this one:

VoltageRegulator.png
VoltageRegulator2.png


What's wrong with:
##V_{out}=V_{in}-IR## ... you know Vout and Vin during the constant voltage operation, and you don't want the current to exceed Imax ... solve for R.
 
Hi azlm, Welcome to Physics Forums.

azlm said:

Homework Statement



Create a 15V regulated power supply capable of providing a maximum load current of 25 mA.

Circuit looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/fMtscbG.png


ILmax (maximum load resistance) = 25mA

Izt (test current) = 20mA
Izk (knee current) = 25mA
rz = 11 Ω
Vz (nominal zener voltage at Izt)= 15V
Vs = 39V\pm1V
RL = 1kΩ
R = ?


Homework Equations



Vz = Vz0 + rz*Iz

The Attempt at a Solution



Vz=14.78 V

To find R I need to determine the total current in the circuit. I'm not sure whether it's correct to assume that the current Iz=0 when IL=25 mA. Since the load voltage is 25V when IL is at its max I thought it meant that the zener diode would be disconnected.

You want to operate a zener at or beyond its knee current in order for it to regulate at the zener voltage. That puts the minimum zener current at Izk even when the load is at maximum draw.

It's odd that you've specified a fixed load resistance since that will pin the load current to a fixed value if the voltage is regulated to 15V, making the specification of a maximum load current unworkable. Perhaps the given RL is meant to be a typical load?

Usually one wants to design for the worst case scenario and choose the voltage dropping resistance (R1 in your diagram) accordingly. Then check the operating conditions at the other extreme to make sure that all is well there too ( a bit hard to do here because the maximum zener current and/or power dissipation is not given). Can you describe the worst case regulation scenario (voltages, currents)?
 
Thanks for the information.

The maximum regulator current is 76mA, power dissipation is 1W.

You're right about RL not having a fixed value. I think I might have mixed up two different problems.

Would the worst case regulation scenario be when ΔVs = -1V and Iz = Izk?
 
azlm said:
Thanks for the information.

The maximum regulator current is 76mA, power dissipation is 1W.

You're right about RL not having a fixed value. I think I might have mixed up two different problems.

Would the worst case regulation scenario be when ΔVs = -1V and Iz = Izk?

The worst case scenario for regulation is usually some combination of the extremes of the external factors: supply voltage and load current.
 

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