Solving for Volume Change: A Failed Attempt

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The discussion revolves around solving for volume change in a geometric context using the formula v = 1/3 π r^2 h. A user attempts to differentiate this equation but encounters issues with their substitution of r = 15/3. Another participant points out that this substitution is incorrect and suggests expressing r in terms of h to simplify the problem. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between r and h for accurate calculations. The thread concludes with a reminder to visualize the problem for better comprehension.
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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



v=1/3 pi r^2 h
dv/dt = 1/3 pi (2rh dr/dt + r^2 dh/dt)
now i sub r=15/3 and h=3 .
Now i express dr/dt=dr/dh x dh/dt
and find dr/dh .
But it fails
 

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icystrike said:

The Attempt at a Solution



v=1/3 pi r^2 h
dv/dt = 1/3 pi (2rh dr/dt + r^2 dh/dt)
now i sub r=15/3 and h=3 .
Now i express dr/dt=dr/dh x dh/dt
and find dr/dh .
But it fails

The equation for v looks okay, as long as h is <= 4.

The substitution r = 15/3 is wrong.

You should be able to express r in terms of h. What is the relation between r and h? Note that if you use this, you can get just get rid of r altogether, which will be nice.

Cheers -- sylas
 
sylas said:
The equation for v looks okay, as long as h is <= 4.

The substitution r = 15/3 is wrong.

You should be able to express r in terms of h. What is the relation between r and h? Note that if you use this, you can get just get rid of r altogether, which will be nice.

Cheers -- sylas

could it be r=h tan (a) ? thanks btw =D
 
icystrike said:
could it be r=h tan (a) ? thanks btw =D

No.

Look again at the figure. Draw some water in it. Mark h and r for the given volume.
 
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