Solving for X: 0.012M/(d-x)^2=M/x^2

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation 0.012M/(d-x)^2 = M/x^2, with given values for M and d. Participants explore various algebraic manipulations, including cross-multiplication and substitution, to isolate x. A key point raised is the importance of considering the modulus when extracting square roots, as it can lead to losing potential solutions. The final calculations suggest that x can be determined using a derived formula, leading to a numerical result of approximately 345,945.95 units. The conversation highlights the complexities involved in solving the equation accurately.
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For some reason i can't solve for x:

0.012M/(d-x)^2=M/x^2

I have M value: (5.98)(10)^24

d is: (3.84)(10)^5
 
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i started with cross multiplying:

0.012Mx^2=M(d-x)^2

0.012Mx^2=M(d^2-2dx+x^2)

then i divided both sides by the left side and crossed out M.

From there I don't know what to do
 
After you divided both sides by M and then divided both sides by .012, you should have wound up with:

x^2=\frac{d^2-2dx+x^2}{.012}

Split the right side up into three fractions:

x^2=\frac{d^2}{.012}-\frac{2dx}{.012}+\frac{x^2}{.012}

Substitute in your value for d. That should leave you with something you can work with.
 
Actually, I wouldn't divide both sides by 0.012, just because I don't like fractions!

0.012x2= d2- 2dx+ x2 is the same as (subtract 0.012x2 from both sides)
0.988x2- 2dx+ d2= 0.

With d= 3.85 x 105, d2= 1.48225 x 1011 so your equation is
0.988x2- (7.7 x 105)x+ 1.48225 x 1011= 0.

You can solve that with the quadratic formula.
 
does d in this case stand for difference like in calculus or is it just any other variable?
 
By,the looks of it,it's a dimensionful number...

Daniel.

PS.Got it,it's the mean distance Earth-Moon and M is the Earth's mass... :-p :approve: And it's in Km.
 
couldnt you first divde M on both sides and then find the square root??

as in

\frac{0.012M}{(d-x)^2} = \frac{M}{x^2}
which then gives

\frac{0.012}{(d-x)^2} = \frac{1}{x^2}

and then find the square rooton both sides

\frac{\sqrt{0.012}}{d-x} = \frac{1}{x}

then cross multiply and solve without need for a quadratic??
 
I'm sorry,but it doesn't work that way.You need to consider the modulus when extracting sqrt,which would complicate the problem...

Daniel.
 
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see i think it's this,
0.012M/(d-x)^2=M/x^2

cross multiply,

x^2/(d-x)^2=M/0.012M

x/(d-x)={1/0.012}^1/2 (that is sq root)

x/(d-x)=9.13

dividing the numerator & denominator by x

1/{(d/x) - 1}=9.13

{(d/x) - 1}=1/9.13
=0.11

(d/x)=1+.11
=1.11

since,d is: (3.84)(10)^5,we have

x=d/1.11
=(3.84)(10)^5/1.11
=345,945.95 units
 
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jackal said:
see i think it's this,
0.012M/(d-x)^2=M/x^2

cross multiply,

x^2/(d-x)^2=M/0.012M

x/(d-x)={1/0.012}^1/2 (that is sq root)

THAT IS DEVIOUS...U should have a \pm sign...


Daniel.
 
  • #12
if its correct please tell me. :smile:
 
  • #13
I thought i put in a very obvious way... :-p It's wrong.By inappropriately extracting square root,u lost one (possibly viable) solution.

Daniel.
 
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