Solving Geometric Progression: Sum of h(1 + 3^h + 3^2h + ... + 3^(n-1)h)

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Homework Statement



This isn't the whole question, I understand the prior parts but somehow stuck on the "easy" part :( Need to solve a geometric progession problem.. find the sum of:

h(1 + 3^h + 3^2h + ... + 3^(n-1)h)

Where nh = 1

The sum should equal to (2h)/((3^h) -1) which is given as is a prove question

Homework Equations



N/A

The Attempt at a Solution



h(1 + 3^h + 3^2h + ... + 3^(n-1)h) --- this is the list

(h(1-(3^h)^(n-1)))/(1-3^h) --- using the formula Sn = a(1-r^n)/(1-r)

simplify slightly (using nh = 1)

= (h(1-3^(1-h)))/(1-3^h)

times top and bottom by -1 to match the denominator of answer

= (h(3^(1-h) - 1))/((3^h) -1)

and now I can't seem to get the final answer out.

Hopefully I've included enough info for you guys to understand what I'm going on about lol - and apologise for the excess of brackets :S

Thank you in advance :D
 
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Hi Maatttt0! :smile:

Maatttt0 said:

Homework Statement



This isn't the whole question, I understand the prior parts but somehow stuck on the "easy" part :( Need to solve a geometric progession problem.. find the sum of:

h(1 + 3^h + 3^2h + ... + 3^(n-1)h)

Where nh = 1

The sum should equal to (2h)/((3^h) -1) which is given as is a prove question

Homework Equations



N/A

The Attempt at a Solution



h(1 + 3^h + 3^2h + ... + 3^(n-1)h) --- this is the list

(h(1-(3^h)^(n-1)))/(1-3^h) --- using the formula Sn = a(1-r^n)/(1-r)

That is not the correct formula, is it? Isn't the correct formula

S_n=a\frac{1-r^{n+1}}{1-r}

so with an n+1 instead of an n...
 
Advice: don't memorize any geometric series formula. Instead, try this:

If you have a geometric progression in r, i.e. S = a + ar + ar2 + ar3 + ... + arn, compute S - rS = S(1 - r) and then re-arrange. This leads you exactly to the formula micromass posted, but it really helps you see what's going on. I prefer to memorize a technique than a formula.

For your problem, you should start by re-writing S = h(1 + 3h + 32h + 33h + ... + 3(n-1)h) as S/h = 1 + 3h + 32h + ... + 3(n-1)h. Noting that this is a geometric progression in 3h, multiply both sides by 3h. Then, compute the difference (S/h) - (S/h)3h. Can you go from there?
 
Hey guys,

Thank you for both of the replies :)

micromass; I'm didn't think it was n+1 :S my formula booklet just has n by itself.

Unit; I got the answer to come out I think xD

3^{h} * \frac{S}{h} = 3^{h} + 3^{2h} + ... + 3^{nh}

3^{h} * \frac{S}{h} = (3^{h}(1-3^{1})) / (1-3^{h})

S = -2h / (1-3^{h}) then just times top and bottom by -1.

Is this what you were suggesting? Hinting to divide through by h and times through by 3^h was useful.
 
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S = -2h / (1-3^{h}) then just times top and bottom by -1.

Is this what you were suggesting? Hinting to divide through by h and times through by 3^h was useful.

Yes, that's exactly it! Well done :)
 
Unit said:
Yes, that's exactly it! Well done :)

Aha yay! Thank you Unit - muchly appreciated :D
 
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