Solving Logarithmic Equation: Why Isn't It Working?

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In summary, the conversation is about a problem with using the "change the base rule" for a logarithmic equation. The person is unsure why their method is incorrect and the solution in the answer book uses a different base. Another person explains that the equation can be simplified by collapsing it into the same base log. They also mention a method for solving the equation without calculating logarithms. Eventually, the first person understands and thanks the second person for their help.
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I can't seem to get my head round this problem, I know how to use the 'change the base rule'

[tex] log_2 x + log_4x = 2 [/tex]

[tex] \frac{logx}{log2} + \frac{logx}{log4} = 2 [/tex]

why is this not correct ??
 
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It looks correct - what's the problem
(of course everytime I stray into maths I make an dumb mistake!)
 
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mgb_phys said:
It looks correct - what's the problem
(of course everytime I stray into maths I make an dumb mistake!)

well the answer book gives the solution like this,

[tex] log_2x + \frac{log_2 x}{log_2 4} = 2 [/tex] don't understand why its base 2 here?

[tex] log_2 x + \frac{log_2 x}{2} =2 [/tex]

[tex] \frac{3}{2}log_2 x = 2 [/tex] don't understand were 3/2 came from ?

[tex] log_2 x = \frac{4}{3} [/tex]

[tex] x = 2^{\frac{4}{3} }[/tex]
 
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They are just collapsing it all into the same base log.

[tex] log_2 x + \frac{log_2 x}{2} =2 [/tex] is just

[tex] 1.5 * log_2 x =2 [/tex] which is

[tex] \frac{3}{2} * log_2 x =2 [/tex]

It's the same answer as you get - but you can do it this way without needing to calculate log() of anything
 
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tweety1234 said:
[tex] log_2 x + log_4x = 2 [/tex]

[tex] \frac{logx}{log2} + \frac{logx}{log4} = 2 [/tex]

so is this method still correct? can I just add both logs up ?
 
  • #6
Except you are trying to find X so first you have to multiply out log(2) and log(4)
 
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mgb_phys said:
They are just collapsing it all into the same base log.


[tex] log_2 x + \frac{log_2 x}{2} =2 [/tex] is just

[tex] 1.5 * log_2 x =2 [/tex] which is

[tex] \frac{3}{2} * log_2 x =2 [/tex]

It's the same answer as you get - but you can do it this way without needing to calculate log() of anything

sorry, I still don't get where 1.5 comes from ? I thought you just multiply both sides by two to get rid of the fraction ?

[tex] 2log_2 x + log_2 x = 4 [/tex]
 
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[tex] log_2 x + \frac{log_2 x}{2} = 2 [/tex]

Which if you ignore the logs for now is just; a + a/2 = 2

a(1+1/2) = 2

1.5a = 2

3/2 a =2
 
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mgb_phys said:
They are just collapsing it all into the same base log.

[tex] log_2 x + \frac{log_2 x}{2} =2 [/tex] is just

[tex] 1.5 * log_2 x =2 [/tex] which is

[tex] \frac{3}{2} * log_2 x =2 [/tex]

It's the same answer as you get - but you can do it this way without needing to calculate log() of anything

mgb_phys said:
[tex] log_2 x + \frac{log_2 x}{2} = 2 [/tex]

Which if you ignore the logs for now is just; a + a/2 = 2

a(1+1/2) = 2

1.5a = 2

3/2 a =2

oh I get it now, thanks a lot for your help!
 

1. Why is my logarithmic equation not working?

There could be several reasons why your logarithmic equation is not working. Some common reasons include:

  • You are using the wrong formula or method to solve the equation
  • You have made a mistake in your calculations
  • The equation does not have a solution
  • You are trying to solve an equation with multiple variables
  • There is an error in the input or formatting of the equation

2. How can I check if my logarithmic equation is correct?

To check if your logarithmic equation is correct, you can try plugging in the solution back into the original equation. If it satisfies the equation, then your solution is correct. Additionally, you can use online calculators or graphing tools to verify your solution.

3. Can I use a calculator to solve logarithmic equations?

Yes, you can use a scientific calculator to solve logarithmic equations. Most calculators have a logarithm function (usually denoted as "log" or "ln") that you can use to solve equations. However, it is important to understand the steps and principles behind solving logarithmic equations manually.

4. Are there any common mistakes to avoid when solving logarithmic equations?

Some common mistakes to avoid when solving logarithmic equations include:

  • Misinterpreting the base of the logarithm
  • Forgetting to apply the power rule when simplifying logarithms
  • Not checking if the solution satisfies the original equation
  • Not understanding the properties and rules of logarithms
  • Incorrectly using the inverse property of logarithms

5. Is there a specific approach or strategy to solve logarithmic equations?

Yes, there are several approaches and strategies that can be used to solve logarithmic equations. These include:

  • Using the definition of logarithms to rewrite the equation
  • Applying the properties and rules of logarithms
  • Converting logarithmic equations into exponential form
  • Using substitution or elimination methods for equations with multiple variables
  • Checking for extraneous solutions

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