Solving Motor Interference Problem with Motor and Controller

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a motor controller and a photointerrupter sensor. Participants explore the issue of the motor controller shutting off when tapping into the sensor, theorizing about potential causes and solutions. The scope includes technical explanations and proposed approaches to mitigate the interference experienced in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant theorizes that the wire used to tap into the photointerrupter sensor acts as an antenna, picking up spikes from the motor's electronic control module (ECM) and causing the motor controller to mistakenly detect RPM spikes.
  • Another participant questions the purpose of tapping the sensor and suggests obtaining the signal from the motor controller instead.
  • A suggestion is made to use a buffer (op-amp in voltage-follower configuration) to eliminate transient phenomena affecting the motor controller.
  • It is noted that even a wire connected to nothing can still have capacitance and contribute to impedance, reinforcing the recommendation to buffer the signal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the problem and potential solutions. There is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the issue, with multiple competing ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify specific assumptions about the system's design or the nature of the signals involved, leaving some aspects unresolved.

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I have a motorcontroller and a motor and they sit next to each other. The motor shaft has a photointerrupter sensor and the sensor signal is connected to the motorcontroller. The motorcontroller has a feature where it will shuts off the motor whenever it senses a spike in the motor's RPM.

The problem that I'm having is that whenever I tap into the photointerrupter sensor using a wire, the motorcontroller shuts off the motor like there is an RPM spike. It acts the same way even if the wire I'm taping with is not connected to anything. My theory is that the wire acts as an antenna and it is outputing spikes created by the motor ecm. The motor controller mistaken these spikes as an increase in RPM and shuts off the motor.

What can I do to overcome this problem??
 
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Stop poking it.

Seriously, what is your purpose in tapping the sensor? If it's to obtain a signal for some other measurement or something, maybe you could take it from the controller instead?
 
You could connect a buffer (op-amp wired in voltage-follower configuration) to the signal, and then look at the signal on the other side of the buffer. This should eliminate the transient phenomena as seen by the motor controller.

- Warren
 
david90 said:
The problem that I'm having is that whenever I tap into the photointerrupter sensor using a wire, the motorcontroller shuts off the motor like there is an RPM spike. It acts the same way even if the wire I'm taping with is not connected to anything. My theory is that the wire acts as an antenna and it is outputing spikes created by the motor ecm. The motor controller mistaken these spikes as an increase in RPM and shuts off the motor.

What can I do to overcome this problem??

You are actually touching the input with the wire while the system is running? If I am understanding you correctly, one might expect this with things running.
 
I want to the pulses signal from the sensor. While the motor won't start if I tap into the sensor or it will stop the motor if I tap into while running.

"You are actually touching the input with the wire while the system is running? If I am understanding you correctly, one might expect this with things running."

it affects the motorcontroller even if i touch the sensor output with a wire connected to nothing.
 
A wire connected to nothing still has capacitance, and still contributes to impedance. I suggest you buffer the signal you're trying to investigate with a suitable op-amp.

- Warren
 

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