Solving ODEs on the TI-89: Tips & Tricks

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The discussion revolves around solving ordinary differential equations (ODEs) using the TI-89 calculator. Participants explore the capabilities of the calculator regarding exact equations, higher-order equations, and coupled differential equations, as well as the notation and input methods required for effective use.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the TI-89 can solve exact equations, providing an example and expressing difficulty in obtaining a complete answer.
  • Another participant suggests a different form of input for the exact equation, which seems to resolve the issue for the original poster.
  • There is a discussion about converting higher-order equations into a form suitable for the TI-89, with one participant questioning the notation used for derivatives.
  • Participants note that the TI-89 can only handle differential equations up to the second degree, raising questions about its ability to solve coupled differential equations.
  • One participant describes a method for representing higher-order derivatives and expresses confusion about how to input this into the calculator.
  • Another participant acknowledges the possibility of graphing the equations but questions its utility in solving the ODEs.

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Participants generally agree that the TI-89 has limitations in solving differential equations, particularly regarding the degree of the equations. However, there is no consensus on the best methods for inputting equations or the effectiveness of the calculator in handling coupled ODEs.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the notation for derivatives and the implications of the calculator's limitations on solving more complex equations. There are also unresolved questions about the best practices for entering equations into the TI-89.

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Users of the TI-89 calculator interested in solving ordinary differential equations, particularly those exploring its capabilities and limitations in handling various forms of ODEs.

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1. Is it possible for the TI-89 to solve Exact Equations?

Ex: (2x-1)dx + (3y+7)dy = 0

I've tried various forms of input, but I cannot find a way for the Calculator to give me a complete answer. My best luck so far was:

(2x-1)x' + (3y+7)y' = 0. The y' part was correct, the x' part was incomplete.

2. I've been reading about how to convert higher order equations into a form that the calculator can solve.

Ex: y''' + 3y'' + 2y' - 5y = sin(2t)

Can be written as:

y'(subscript 3) = 5y(subscript 1) - 2y(subscript 2) -3y(subscript 3) + sin(2t)

How might I enter this into the TI-89?

3. Why does the TI-89 put tan and cot in terms of sin and cos? I have seen rather simple equations turn into complicated messes because of this.

Thanks in advance.:smile:
 
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Did you try (2x-1) + (3y+7)y' = 0?

##y'_3##? Looks like an unusual notation. What is wrong with y'''?
 
Your suggestion worked, I find it odd that leaving out x' makes it work though.

The TI-89 can only do DE's up to the second degree. Would it help if I explained the method in full?

Thanks for your help.
 
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The TI-89 can only do DE's up to the second degree.
Hmm... can it solve coupled DEs?

z=y', z''+3z'+2z-5y=sin(2t)

Your suggestion worked, I find it odd that leaving out x' makes it work though.
dx/dx=1
 
mfb said:
Hmm... can it solve coupled DEs?

z=y', z''+3z'+2z-5y=sin(2t)

No, it can't. I see what you're doing though, and its very similar to the method I am trying to use. In my method:

y1 = y, y2 = y', y3 = y''...yn = y ^(n-1).

From these:

y'1 = y' = y2, y'2 = y'' = y3...y'(n) = y^n.

This gives the system:

y'1 = y2
y'2 = y3

My example from earlier:

Ex: y''' + 3y'' + 2y' - 5y = sin(2t)

Can be written as:

y'(subscript 3) = 5y(subscript 1) - 2y(subscript 2) -3y(subscript 3) + sin(2t)

I'm puzzled as to how to enter this in the calculator though.
 
I understand I could graph this, but how would that help me?
 

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