Solving Perpendicular Vectors: (a - 2b) \cdot (3a + 5b) Explanation and Solution

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The problem involves simplifying the expression (a - 2b) · (3a + 5b) under the condition that vectors a and b are perpendicular. The original poster expresses confusion about the requirements of the problem and the reasoning behind the expected answer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the expansion of the expression and the implications of the scalar product being zero due to the perpendicularity of the vectors. There is a focus on understanding the multiplication of the components of the vectors and the reasoning behind the simplification process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the expansion of the expression and confirmed the relationship between the vectors. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties of scalar products in the context of perpendicular vectors.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster may have misunderstood the structure of the expression, thinking of the terms as separate vectors rather than as combinations of the vectors a and b. The discussion also touches on the simplicity of demonstrating the scalar product of perpendicular vectors being zero.

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Homework Statement


If a and b are perpendicular, simplify [tex](a - 2b) \cdot (3a + 5b)[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



Not really sure what they're asking, but to be perp. the angle between them is 90. So using the scalar

so a.b = 0??

The answer in the book it (3a² - 10b²) and I can see that they just multiplied the as and bs together, but why?

Thanks
Thomas
 
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thomas49th said:
The answer in the book it (3a² - 10b²) and I can see that they just multiplied the as and bs together, but why?

You are to expand it as follows [itex]3a \cdot (a - 2b)+5b \cdot(a-2b)[/itex] and then use the fact that a.b=0
 
thomas49th said:
so a.b = 0??

Hi Thomas! :smile:

Yes, a.b = 0 …

so just expand (a-2b).(3a+5b) in the usual way, and use a.b = 0 :wink:
 
oh it's really easy ;) I was thinking that the each of the brackets were vectors when of course a and b are the vectors. I'm a silly billy.

How about this one

Use the definition of the scalar product to show that if two vectors are perpendicular, their scalar product is zero.

well a.b = |a||b|Cosx

and when x = 90° => cos x = 0 and that means

a.b = |a||b|.0
a.b = 0

but that's a bit easy isn't it?

Thanks
 
thomas49th said:
oh it's really easy ;) I was thinking that the each of the brackets were vectors when of course a and b are the vectors. I'm a silly billy.

How about this one

Use the definition of the scalar product to show that if two vectors are perpendicular, their scalar product is zero.

well a.b = |a||b|Cosx

and when x = 90° => cos x = 0 and that means

a.b = |a||b|.0
a.b = 0

but that's a bit easy isn't it?

Thanks


yes that would be correct
 
thomas49th said:
oh it's really easy ;) I was thinking that the each of the brackets were vectors when of course a and b are the vectors. I'm a silly billy.
Each of the quantities inside parentheses is a vector, made up of scalar multiples of a and b, which are themselves vectors.
thomas49th said:
How about this one

Use the definition of the scalar product to show that if two vectors are perpendicular, their scalar product is zero.

well a.b = |a||b|Cosx

and when x = 90° => cos x = 0 and that means

a.b = |a||b|.0
a.b = 0

but that's a bit easy isn't it?

Thanks
 

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