Solving Simple SR Questions: Find Proper Length & Speed of a Spacecraft

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Proper length refers to the length of an object measured in its rest frame, which is crucial for understanding length contraction in relativity. In this scenario, the observer measures the spacecraft's length as 1.5 m while it travels at a speed of 0.025c. The calculations show that at non-relativistic speeds, the proper length and the observed length are nearly the same, with minor differences due to relativistic effects. The proper length is calculated to be approximately 1.5005 m, indicating minimal contraction. The discussion highlights the challenges of solving relativity problems without definitive answers available.
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Homework Statement



An observer at a station on the moon measures the time of a spacecraft passing
with constant speed v. The front of the spacecraft passes him at 0 s and the rear
at 0.2 μs. The observer measures the length of the spacecraft to be 1.5 m.
Explain briefy the term proper length. What is the proper length and the speed
v (in units of c) of the spacecraft ?

Homework Equations


L=Lo/γ
T=To*γ

The Attempt at a Solution



The definition for proper length we've been given is "The length Lo of an object measured in the rest frame of the object is the PROPER LENGTH".

I've tried to think of it in terms of "events" and I'm getting the timings occur at the same place in space by the observer, but the measurements aren't as its at the back and front of the rocket (probably where I'm going wrong).
So I'm saying L=1.5m and To=0.2μs, which from v=L/To gives 7.5E6 m/s or 2.5E-2 c.

so to find Lo use L=Lo/γ→ Lγ=Lo then because its fairly slow speed use low speed approximation (because γ=1.0005 without it) of γ=1+(1/2)β^2

which give the proper length to be 1.5007m and yeah that seems wrong.

any help appreciated, and more so how to think when tackling these problems?
 
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Hi Murgs2012! :smile:
Murgs2012 said:
So I'm saying L=1.5m and To=0.2μs, which from v=L/To gives 7.5E6 m/s or 2.5E-2 c.

so to find Lo use L=Lo/γ→ Lγ=Lo then because its fairly slow speed use low speed approximation (because γ=1.0005 without it) of γ=1+(1/2)β^2

which give the proper length to be 1.5007m and yeah that seems wrong.

Looks ok, apart from the 7.
 
so would i be correct in saying that because it is moving at non-relativistic speeds (0.025c) the length contraction is effectively zero so the proper length and the contracted length are both 1.5m?
 
no, i meant, i don't get 7
 
Oh sorry, just re-did it and got 1.5005m?
 
that's what i get :smile:

(is it right?)
 
No idea, downside of university "problems "(past paper in this case) are the lack of answers because they love repeating questions across years :\.
But if we both got to the same answer I'll take it as right :)

Thanks for the help.
 

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