Solving Simultaneous Equations: x^2+y^2=5, 1/x^2+1/y^2=5/4

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The discussion focuses on solving the simultaneous equations x^2 + y^2 = 5 and 1/x^2 + 1/y^2 = 5/4. The initial approach involved substituting and rearranging the equations, leading to a quartic equation. Two different factorization methods yielded conflicting results, prompting a clarification on the correct approach to solving the equations. It was noted that the methods were flawed because they did not set the equations to zero, which is essential for finding roots. Ultimately, the correct solution was achieved by substituting variables properly and deriving a quadratic equation.
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Homework Statement

x^2+y^2=5, 1/x^2+1/y^2=5/4




The Attempt at a Solution



I have rearranged the 1st equation: x^2=5-y^2
Then substitued this into the 2nd equation: 1/(5-y^2)+1/y^2=5/4
Found a common denominator: 5/(5x^2-x^4)=5/4
Multiply by the denominator: 5=(25x^2-5x^4)/4
Multiply by 4: 20=25x^2-5x^4

Now I have two methods for factorising which results in different answers: method 1: 4=5x^2-x^4
multiply by -1: x^4-5x^2=-4
x^2(x^2-5)=-4 which gives +or- 1 as the only solutions as -4^0.5 has no real solutions
However, method 2: 4=5x^2-x^4
4=x^2(5-x^2) which gives +or-2 AND +or-1 as the solutions.

Could anybody tell me where I have gone wrong and why the second method gives 4 solutions.
 
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The methods are fundementally flawed because your method of finding roots only works generally if the equation equals zero. If you treat x^2 as a, then you would have a quadratic equation, wherein you can find the roots easily. By the way, it may help to know the geometric representation of the two equations, one is two sets of hyperbolae and the other describes a circle, and the circle intersects the hyperbolae at eight different points. Oh and it helps not to change the variable name from y to x halfway, especially since x is already in the equations.
 
So what you're saying is that it's not possible to solve x^2(x^2-5)=-4 because there isn't a 0 on the right hand side? Instead we should substitute x^2 from the quartic equation and get a quadratic?
Thanks for the reply
 
Oh I have the solutions now! After getting a quartic in terms of y, I replaced y^2 with a which gave me a quadratic with 2 solutions, I then found the corresponding y values and then the x values. Thank you muchly for pointing out that my method was fundamentally flawed!
 
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