Solving Slider Crank Problem: Tips & Advice

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Slider Crank Problem, focusing on the challenges participants face in solving it, particularly regarding the unknowns involved and the implications of angular velocity. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to the problem's dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the problem due to multiple unknowns, particularly in generating graphs without knowing the angular velocity.
  • Another participant suggests that an equation for acceleration as a function of theta can be used, noting that while the value of omega may be unknown, it is constant, allowing for plotting the function by scaling the y-axis in units of omega squared.
  • A different participant mentions confusion regarding the cancellation of theta when combining y components and notes that velocity is not linear in this context, indicating uncertainty about their calculations.
  • One participant outlines that the problem requires finding theta at maximum velocity and minimum acceleration, proposing that assuming a value for omega can simplify the calculations, as the shapes of the graphs will remain consistent regardless of the assumed value.
  • Reference to piston motion equations is provided as a potential resource for solving the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are differing views on how to approach the problem and the implications of the unknowns involved.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on assumptions about angular velocity and the unresolved nature of the calculations presented by participants.

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I'm having trouble figuring out this problem. I know how to solve the problem if the angular velocity was known but there seem to be too many unknowns to be able to generate graphs. If anyone can offer advice that would be great.
 

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If you know how to solve the problem, you should have an equation for acceleration as a function of theta (you may not know the value of omega, but you know that the angular velocity is a constant). There's no reason you can't plot this function if you scale your y-axis in units of omega^2...
 
I'm having trouble figuring this out when I put the y components together the theta gets canceled out and velocity is not linear in this problem and I have no idea where my mistake was
 
The problem is basically asking you to find two things:

  • Theta at max velocity
  • Theta at min acceleration
To find these two values, you can just assume a value for omega (angular speed, d/dt of theta) because those values of theta will not change with angular speed. The graphs of velocity and acceleration vs. theta will change in magnitude but not in shape, so I would just assume soemthing for omega that makes calculation easy (like 60 rpm, 2pi rad/s). The problem states that you should assume the angular velocity is constant, which tells me you are meant to assume a constant value for it.

The piston motion equations should help you find the result:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piston_motion_equations
 

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