Solving the Limit Problem of Death: A Tricky Mathematical Challenge

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The discussion revolves around a limit problem involving trigonometric functions, specifically evaluating the limit as \( x \) approaches \( \frac{\pi}{2} \) for the expression \( x \tan(x) - \frac{\pi}{2 \cos(x)} \). Participants express uncertainty regarding the undefined nature of certain components at this limit.

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  • Participants discuss combining terms into a single fraction and applying l'Hôpital's rule. There are attempts to rewrite the tangent function in terms of sine and cosine, with some questioning the correctness of their transformations and the presence of undefined forms.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing various approaches and expressing confusion about their calculations. Some have suggested methods to simplify the expression, while others are verifying their steps and results. There is no clear consensus on the correct path forward yet.

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Participants note the presence of undefined expressions at the limit, which raises questions about the assumptions made in their calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the setup of the limit problem.

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[Solved] Limit problem of death

\lim_{x\rightarrow{\pi/2}} (x*tan(x) - \frac{\pi}{2*cos(x)})

OK. I'm not sure how to begin this problem because:

1) tan(pi/2) is undefined and

2) pi/2cos(pi/2) is undefined also!

Any hint would be great!

Thanks
 
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Combine them into a single fraction and apply l'Hopital.
 
like this?

\frac{2cos(x)*x*tan(x)-\pi}{2cos(x)}

This looks incorrect...
 
You can write tanx=sinx/cosx, so try to do that with your expression in the first post.
 
cristo said:
You can write tanx=sinx/cosx, so try to do that with your expression in the first post.

Or just put it into your current version. cos(x)*tan(x)=sin(x).
 
Dick said:
Or just put it into your current version. cos(x)*tan(x)=sin(x).

:smile: yup, that works as well, and is a lot simpler to do!
 
Ok, I'm still confused. I must be overseeing something obvious.

I get

\frac{xsin(x)- \pi}{cos{x}}

That doesn't work for l'Hôpital so I must be doing something wrong.
 
What happened to the '2's? It should be a 0/0 limit.
 
This is what I did

\frac{2cos(x)*x*\frac{sinx}{cosx}-\pi}{2cos(x)}

\frac{2cos(x)*x*sin(x)-\pi*cos(x)}{cos(x)} * \frac{1}{2cos(x)}

\frac{2cos(x)*x*sin(x)-\pi*cos(x)}{2cos^2(x)}

Another result and they are both 0/0 but is this correct ?
 
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Ok I think I got it! The above equals to

\frac{x*sin(x)-\pi/2}{cos(x)} : [\frac{0}{0}]
 
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Ok thanks a bunch guys. The rest is simple

\lim_{x\rightarrow\pi/2} \frac{sin(x)+x*cos(x)}{-sin(x)} = \frac{\pi/2}{-\pi/2} = -1

Edit: It is not pi/2 there it is supposed to be 1/-1
 

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