Solving Vector Calculus Problems: Finding the Equation of a Tangent Plane

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a tangent plane in the context of vector calculus, specifically dealing with a vector function and its surface representation in three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the use of the gradient vector to find the normal to the tangent plane and discuss the representation of the surface as a constant function. There are attempts to clarify the significance of specific points on the surface and how to verify if a point lies on it.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships involved, such as the use of gradients and the verification of points on the surface. There is ongoing exploration of different interpretations and approaches to the problem, particularly regarding the identification of point A and its role in the calculations.

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Participants express uncertainty about the specific point on the surface and the implications of their calculations. There are also references to the volume of a bottle, indicating a potential connection to a related problem or question within the thread.

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Does anyone know how do #1? I thought I just needed to find the binormal and it will give me the equation of the tangent plane, however the calculations are too insane for that to be the way to solve this. I can't think of any other way, since we're dealing with a vector function and not the equation, ie the are no defined points on the 3D function.

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For part 1, the normal to the plane is given by the grad vector. Then, using point A, the equation of the tangent plane can be found. I think that would work
[tex]n = \frac{\partial{z}}{\partial{x}}i + \frac{\partial{z}}{\partial{y}}j + \frac{\partial{z}}{\partial{{z}}k[/tex]
[tex]n.(r-a) = 0[/tex] where a is the position vector of A, and [tex]r = xi + yj + zk[/tex]

Sorry about the maths bits, it was my attempt to do partial derivatives.
 
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Try writing the equation for the surface in the form f(x,y,z)=0, ie, treat it as a constant surface of some function in R^3. Then the gradient of this function at a point represents the vector normal to the surface at the point, and from this it should be easy to find the tangent plane.
 
But how do I know what point will A be on the surface?
 
I think I have it: the point A is just (1/25,1/10,3/25). Oh my God how could I be so stupid to miss that! OMG!

Now its super easy to find the solution to Q1.
 
I'm pretty sure you got it. But just to clarify what [tex]\vec{0A}[/tex] means.

A vector is an object that has direction and length. Given [tex]\vec{0A} = \left(\frac{1}{25}, \frac{1}{10}, \frac{3}{25}\right)[/tex] this means that you have a vector that starts at position 0, which is [tex]\vec 0 = (0,0,0)[/tex] and then moves to the right out in the x direction by 1/25 then in the y direction by 1/10 and then in the z direction by 3/25. So in x-y-z space, this vector points to something. What does it point to?

Well you know your surface is defined by:
[tex]z=\left (\frac{1}{2}-y \right)^2 - x[/tex]

And you have a vector [tex]\vec{0A} = \left(\frac{1}{25}, \frac{1}{10}, \frac{3}{25}\right)[/tex].

Which in your coordinate system is:
[tex]x = \frac{1}{25}[/tex]
[tex]y = \frac{1}{10}[/tex]
[tex]z = \frac{3}{25}[/tex]

So if you want to see if the "point" A is actually on your surface. Then the vector must point to an actual element of the set that makes up the surface.

So take your surface:
[tex]z=\left (\frac{1}{2}-y \right)^2 - x[/tex]

then take your vector:
[tex]x = \frac{1}{25}[/tex]
[tex]y = \frac{1}{10}[/tex]
[tex]z = \frac{3}{25}[/tex]

and you get:
[tex]z= \left(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{10}\right) ^2 - \frac{1}{25}[/tex]
[tex]z=\left( \frac{2}{5} \right)^2 - \frac{1}{25}[/tex]
[tex]z=\frac{4}{25}-\frac{1}{25}=\frac{3}{25}[/tex]

So you know the point WILL be on the surface.
 
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Now for question #4 I found the volume of the bottle to be 0.012414 cubic meters, anyone else got a similar answer? What integral did you set up?
 
By the way, for #6 am I correct in doing grad(f) at A dot product with r'(1/20)?
 

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