Finding Tangent, Normal & Osculating Planes of r(t) at t=π/4

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The discussion revolves around finding the equations for the tangent line, normal plane, and osculating plane for the curve defined by the vector function r(t) = -2sin(t) i + 2cos(t) j + 3 k at the point corresponding to t = π/4. The subject area includes vector calculus and differential geometry.

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  • Participants explore the definitions and representations of the tangent line, normal plane, and osculating plane, questioning the correctness of the original poster's equations and parameters.

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Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's attempts, suggesting corrections and clarifications regarding the representation of the tangent line and the planes. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical definitions and relationships between the vectors involved.

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Participants note potential errors in the original equations and discuss the implications of using parameters and degrees of freedom in defining the planes and lines. There is a focus on ensuring that the equations accurately reflect the geometric properties of the curves.

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Homework Statement


Find the equations of the tangent line, normal plane and osculating plane to the curve

r(t) = -2sin(t) i + 2cos(t) j + 3 k

at the point corresponding to t = π/4.

Homework Equations


T[/B]^(t) = r'(t) // ||r'(t)||
u = a i + b j + c k, ||u|| = √(a^2 + b^2 + c^2)
N^(t) = T^(t) / ||T^(t)||
B^ = T^ × N^

The osculating plane is plane formed by unit normal and unit tangent vectors where the unit binormal vector is the vector normal to the osculating plane.

The normal plane is formed by the unit normal and unit binormal vectors and the unit tangent vector is the vector normal to the normal plane.

The Attempt at a Solution


N[/B]^(t) = sin(t) i - cos(t) j

B
(t) = k (technically independent of t)

This was a question on a quiz I received, and I'm studying for an exam now, and I have the following three questions.:
  1. Would the tangent line be represented by P= a ⋅ T^(π/4) + [r(t) - r(π/4)] (where a is some scalar)?
  2. Would the normal plane be represented by T^(pi/4) ⋅ (r(t) -r(π/4)) = 0?
  3. Would the osculating plane be represented by B^(π/4) ⋅ (r(t) - r(π/4)) = 0?

Any input would be GREATLY appreciated!
 
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I think your equation defining the unit normal is wrong -it should have primes(derivatives) rather than hats on the rhs.
Then:
1) Close but, The tangent line should have a single parameter; is it a or t? Try to picture: you start at r(π/4) and add an arbitrary amount (a) along the tangent vector.
2) A plane should have 2 degrees of freedom; you are parametrizing it by t which gives only 1. Let r(t) be free, you are already constraining the plane to be normal to the tangent, and to pass through r(π/4).
3) Yes, but , same problem as in 2.
 
Sorry for the very-delayed response. (I have so much work that it takes time to get ahead of it so that I can do other things such as answer forum posts.)

Okay, so the equation for the unit normal should be N^(t) = [d/dt T^(t)] / || d/dt [T^(t)] ||, right?

1) So, would the tangent line be correctly represented by l_T = r(pi/4) + k * T^(π/4) ⇒ l_T = <–2,0,3> + k * <–√(2)/2, –√(2)/2, 0>? (where k is some scalar)

2) So, would the normal plane be correctly represented by <–√(2)/2, –√(2), 0> ⋅ <x – –2, y – 0, z – 3> = 0?

3) So, would the osculating plane be correctly represented by <0, 0, 1> ⋅ <x - -2, y – 0, z – 3> = 0?
 
Right.
1) lhs of ⇒ is correct, but r(pi/4) seems wrong.
2) Form is correct, but seems the numbers are wrong.
 

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