Solving Vectors Questions: Cosine & Sine Laws

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The discussion revolves around solving a vector problem using the cosine and sine laws. The user attempts to calculate the magnitude of vector v based on the given angle of 60 degrees between vectors u and w, arriving at a value of √52. They propose expressing vector w as a linear combination of u and v, but face challenges in deriving exact answers for the component vectors w_x and w_y. There is a consensus that assuming vectors u and v are perpendicular simplifies the problem, although this assumption may not hold true in all cases. The overall focus is on clarifying the relationships between the vectors and ensuring accurate calculations based on the provided data.
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Homework Statement


As in the diagram.

Homework Equations


Cosine law
sine law

The Attempt at a Solution


if we do attempt the magnitudes of u and w and the angle between them 60 degrees, I can solve for the opposite side where v is supposed to be.
I calculated
|k \vec{v}|^2 = |u|^2 + |w|^2 - 2|u||w| \cos 60
when I calculate the above I got the value of the right side as square root 52
\sqrt{52} = \frac{\sqrt{52}}{7} |\vec{v}|

Would this mean that to get w as a linear combination of u and v, we simply can write

\vec{w} = \vec{u} - \frac{\sqrt{52}}{7} \vec{v}

is that correct?

Thanks for your help.
 

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Think of this as a trig question: what are the component vectors of ##\vec{w}##? Go from there.
 
verty said:
Think of this as a trig question: what are the component vectors of ##\vec{w}##? Go from there.

w_{x} = 8 \cos 60 \hat{i}
w_{y} = 8 \sin 60 \hat{j}

So of course x along the horizontal so
w_{x} = |u| - |v| \cos \theta
w_{y} = - |v| \sin \theta

But this will not yield exact answers when solved
 
stunner5000pt said:
w_{x} = 8 \cos 60 \hat{i}
w_{y} = 8 \sin 60 \hat{j}

So of course x along the horizontal so
w_{x} = |u| - |v| \cos \theta
w_{y} = - |v| \sin \theta

But this will not yield exact answers when solved

PS are we to assume that u and v are perpendicular? That would remove the need for the above
 
The diagram is a little rough, but it looks as though it is supposed to be a closed triangle. If so, the given data (angle and magnitudes) are irrelevant.
 
stunner5000pt said:
w_{x} = 8 \cos 60 \hat{i}
w_{y} = 8 \sin 60 \hat{j}

So of course x along the horizontal so
w_{x} = |u| - |v| \cos \theta
w_{y} = - |v| \sin \theta

But this will not yield exact answers when solved

You have assumed that ##\vec{u}## is parallel to ##\hat{j}## and has the same orientation, but you shouldn't make these assumptions. However, the assumption that ##\vec{u}## and ##\vec{v}## are perpendicular is necessary to make any sense of the question, I think.
 
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