Chemistry What Are the Problems with Mole Fraction in Chemical Reactions?

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the concept of mole fraction in chemical reactions, particularly in the context of cracking hydrocarbons. Participants express uncertainty about how to calculate mole fractions and the implications of different reaction equations. It is noted that the stoichiometry of cracking is complex, involving multiple parallel reactions that do not follow simple equations. The role of produced hydrogen in the mole fraction calculation is also questioned, as it may not be included in the products listed. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the challenges of accurately determining mole fractions in intricate chemical processes.
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First, I'm a bit confused as to what the mole fraction of the products mean. Can someone explain? Is it something to do about the total number of carbon and hydrogen atoms in methane, ethene and propene?

Just can't figure this out.
 
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Mole fraction is

\frac {number~of~moles~of~the~substance}{total~number~of~moles~of~all~substances~present}
 
Borek said:
Mole fraction is

\frac {number~of~moles~of~the~substance}{total~number~of~moles~of~all~substances~present}
Could you give me a hint as how this information can be used in finding X? I have no clue.
 
To be honest, I have no clue either. The only way to solve is to make some false assumptions about how the cracking process works - that is, to assume it is possible tow rite a simple reaction equation. That is not correct - stoichiometry of cracking is rather messy and doesn't follow simple equations, overall reaction equation will contain plenty of fractional coefficients - not because it follows some other chemistry rules, but because overall process is a combination of many different parallel reactions going at the same time and competing. Plus, it is not clear if the mole fraction takes into account produced hydrogen or not (if there are alkenes produced, hydrogen must be present between products, yet it is not listed).

I think I could be able to prove each of the answers to be the right one. Futile exercise.
 
Borek said:
To be honest, I have no clue either. The only way to solve is to make some false assumptions about how the cracking process works - that is, to assume it is possible tow rite a simple reaction equation. That is not correct - stoichiometry of cracking is rather messy and doesn't follow simple equations, overall reaction equation will contain plenty of fractional coefficients - not because it follows some other chemistry rules, but because overall process is a combination of many different parallel reactions going at the same time and competing. Plus, it is not clear if the mole fraction takes into account produced hydrogen or not (if there are alkenes produced, hydrogen must be present between products, yet it is not listed).

I think I could be able to prove each of the answers to be the right one. Futile exercise.
Oh I see. Well the answer is B, if it helps any. I've been trying to see how the mole fraction given is used to get that answer.
 
If they think the answer is B they probably mean the cracking goes like

X → methane + 2 ethene + propene

so X contains 1 +2*2+3 = 8 atoms of carbon.

But if the reaction is

X → 2 methane + 3 ethene + propene

X contains 2*1 + 3*2 + 3 = 11 atoms of carbon and the answer is D.
 
Borek said:
If they think the answer is B they probably mean the cracking goes like

X → methane + 2 ethene + propene

so X contains 1 +2*2+3 = 8 atoms of carbon.

But if the reaction is

X → 2 methane + 3 ethene + propene

X contains 2*1 + 3*2 + 3 = 11 atoms of carbon and the answer is D.
Oh...ok. Thanks for your time.
 
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