Sound Waves of Piston: Calculation & Amplitude

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The discussion focuses on the sound waves generated by a piston in an engine, specifically analyzing a small engine with an 86mm stroke at 8000 RPM, resulting in a frequency of 133.333 Hz and a wavelength of 2.57 m. The calculations for pressure amplitude yield 30,425 Pa, while the intensity of the sound is calculated to be 1,097,104 W/m2, equating to 180 dB. The poster questions the validity of these calculations and seeks clarification on whether such a high sound intensity is feasible. Additionally, there is curiosity about the source of energy that allows the piston to generate sound waves of this magnitude. The discussion invites further insights into the calculations and the physics behind sound wave generation in pistons.
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I posted this in general physics forum but in retrospect I think I should have posted it here.

Since piston compresses and decompresses a gas, it must be generating sound waves.

Lets take a small engine with piston stroke 86mm, RPM 8000. An 8000 RPM means it is making 133.333 revolutions per second. Thus the frequency of the pressure waves or sound waves being generated by the compression and decompression is 133.333 Hz. Taking the speed of sound to be 343 m/s, the wavelength is 2.57 m.
Assume that the chambers length is so long that the compression ratio turns out to be less than 1 and has negligible effect on the speed of sound.

pressure ampitude = bulk modulus * wave number * displacement amplitude = speed of sound^2 * density * wave number * displacement amplitude =
343^2 * 1.23 * 2*pi/2.57*0.086 = 30425 Pa.

Intensity of sound = pressure amplitude^2/(2*speed of sound * density) = 1097104 W/m2 = 180 dB.

Isn't this a rather large amount of energy supplied to the sound waves? Or am I going wrong somewhere with my calculations?
 
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Please, can anyone help?

From where does a piston get the energy to generate sound waves of such intensity?
 
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