Specify the position of the center of mass

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The discussion centers on determining the center of mass for a T-shaped object formed by two identical rectangular planks. The initial calculations indicate that the center of mass for each plank is at (a/2, b/2), but the user struggles to find the overall center of mass mathematically. Participants emphasize the importance of defining an origin for accurate calculations and point out that the provided equation for center of mass is not standard. They suggest that a simpler method, using mass-weighted averages, could be more effective than the integral approach mentioned. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in both the mathematical approach and the physical configuration of the planks.
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Homework Statement



Two identical uniform rectangular flat planks with sides a and b are glued together to form a T-shaped object. Specify the position of the center of mass. State any theorems you use in order to arrive at your conclusion. See the attempted solution for a diagram. :)

The problem:

I have shown that the center of mass for each object is (\frac{a}{2}, \frac{b}{2}), but I can't seem to show (using maths) that the center of mass of the overall object is (\frac{\frac{a}{2} + \frac{b}{2}}{2}).

If anybody could help out that would be wonderful. :)

Homework Equations



CM = \int^{x}_{0}(x\frac{dm}{dx})dx

The Attempt at a Solution



It would probably take me a good 30 minutes to write all of this out, so I'll just attach a picture. :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29493853/Photo%20Jul%2031%2C%203%2020%2014%20PM.jpeg"
 
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nayfie said:

Homework Statement



Two identical uniform rectangular flat planks with sides a and b are glued together to form a T-shaped object. Specify the position of the center of mass. State any theorems you use in order to arrive at your conclusion. See the attempted solution for a diagram. :)

The problem:

I have shown that the center of mass for each object is (\frac{a}{2}, \frac{b}{2}), but I can't seem to show (using maths) that the center of mass of the overall object is (\frac{\frac{a}{2} + \frac{b}{2}}{2}).

If anybody could help out that would be wonderful. :)

Homework Equations



CM = \int^{x}_{0}(x\frac{dm}{dx})dx

The Attempt at a Solution



It would probably take me a good 30 minutes to write all of this out, so I'll just attach a picture. :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29493853/Photo%20Jul%2031%2C%203%2020%2014%20PM.jpeg"

Would you find it simpler if you had two spheres of lead, positioned so that their centres of mass were in equivalent positions? ie the same distance apart?
 
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Hi nayfie! :smile:

A center of mass is a point with an x-coordinate and a y-coordinate.
To state where it is, first you need to define an origin.
What is your origin?

The answer you are trying to find is just a value, while it should be a point.
And either way, I'm afraid that the value will not be part of the answer.
Or were the planks supposed to be glued on top of each other, instead of against each other?

The relevant equation you specified is not the one usually used for a CM calculation.
Where did you get it?
There are several assumptions contained within that may block you.
For one it assumes the object is between a coordinate 0 and x, meaning it is entirely to the right of the origin.
Furthermore it only calculates the x coordinate of the CM.
What happened to the y coordinate?

Btw, are you required to calculate it using integrals?
For there is an easier method, since a CM is just a mass-weighted average of all objects...
 
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