Spectral line width calculations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the spectral line width for light emitted by excited atoms in a gas, specifically focusing on the wavelength of 5500 angstroms. Participants explore the mathematical framework and methods for determining the spread of wavelengths, including time-dependent wave functions and Fourier transforms.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the time dependence of the wave function as e^{-r*t/2}*e^{-i*\omega_{0}*t} and seeks guidance on finding the spread of wavelengths.
  • Another participant suggests using a Fourier transform of the wave function to obtain the line shape in energy space, indicating that the absolute value squared gives the spectral line profile.
  • A different participant proposes an approximation for the width of the spectral line without performing a Fourier transform, relating the frequency difference to the time-width of the waveform and suggesting that the spread in frequencies is approximately Df = r/8.
  • One participant asserts that the width of the line is given by gamma = 2r, defining gamma as the "full width at half maximum." This statement appears to be presented as a definitive answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the method for calculating the spectral line width, as participants propose different approaches and approximations. Some methods involve Fourier transforms, while others suggest alternative approximations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the wave function and its time dependence, as well as the implications of different methods for calculating spectral line width. The exact relationship between the proposed methods and the resulting spectral line width is not fully established.

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Students and enthusiasts in quantum physics, particularly those interested in spectral analysis and the mathematical techniques used in quantum mechanics.

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So I'm in an intro quantum physics course, and while I'm sure this is a really simple problem, I'm just not getting the math to work out here.

Say you excite the atoms of some gas such that they emit light at a wavelength of 5500 angstroms as they fall back to the ground state. Now if the light intensity falls off with I(t) = I*e[tex]^{-r*t}[/tex] (with r = 5*10^(-7) Hz), we can get the time dependence of the wave function to be e[tex]^{-r*t/2}[/tex]*e[tex]^{-i*\omega_{0}*t}[/tex], correct? Now given this, how would you go about finding the spread of wavelengths of the spectral line? Now the idea I would think is to find <E^2> - <E>^2, and then just set the standard deviation of lamda equal to h*c over this? Anyway, as I said the math just isn't working out. So as much as I hate my first post here to be a question, if someone could maybe layout a general process for doing this (without actually plugging in the values, of course; the idea is to understand this on my own), it would be much appreciated.
 
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Fourier transform the wave function using exp(-iEt/h).
This gives you the WF in energy space.
Its absolute value squared gives you the line shape.
 
Mjolnir said:
... we can get the time dependence of the wave function to be e[tex]^{-r*t/2}[/tex]*e[tex]^{-i*\omega_{0}*t}[/tex], correct? Now given this, how would you go about finding the spread of wavelengths of the spectral line? ...

You can get an approximation of the width without having to perform the Fourier transform. Let Df be the difference in frequency between two waves at the upper and lower bounds of the distribution. As time t progresses the phase difference between the two extreme waves will increase as 2pi*Df*t. The waves will strongly interfere when the phase difference reaches pi at time T, so that 2*Df*T = 1. Now T can be equated with the time-width of your waveform, approximately 4/r (2 times 2/r), and the spread in your frequencies is approximately Df = r/8.

This doesn't give the exact answer, which depends on details in the shape of the distribution. But it is close, and it helps demonstrate what is going on.
 
I gave you the method of doing it.
If you just want the answer, the width of the line is gamma=2r.
gamma is the "full width at half maximum".
 

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