Speed of a projectile launched from the moon?

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A projectile launched from the Moon to an altitude of 370 km requires an initial speed calculation using gravitational equations. The gravitational acceleration on the Moon is 1.62 m/s², and the conservation of energy approach is suggested for accurate results. The gravitational potential energy at the surface and at 370 km must be calculated to find the kinetic energy difference. The calculations initially led to confusion regarding mass assumptions, particularly using the Moon's mass instead of the projectile's. Correctly applying the equations and understanding the mass involved is crucial for determining the projectile's initial speed accurately.
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Homework Statement



A projectile launched vertically from the surface of the Moon rises to an altitude of 370 km. What was the projectile's initial speed?

Homework Equations



h = 370,000 m
g moon = 1.62 m/s^2
G = 6.67x10^-11 N m^2/kg^2
Mass moon = 7.35x10^22 kg
Radius moon = 1.74X10^6 m

vf^2 = vi^2 - 2gh

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated g on the moon to be 1.62 m/s^2. I then used kinematics (vf^2 = vi^2 - 2gh) and I get:

vf = 0
vi = ?
g = 1.62 m/s^2
vf^2 = Vi^2 - 2gh
solving for Vi = sqroot of Vf^2 + 2gh

I get initial velocity to be 1095.57 m/s. The answer is not correct, and I really don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
 
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Two methods
Conservation of energy
1/2mv^2 = mgh
Or motion equations:
v^2 = u^2 + 2gs (where final velocity is zero)

ps. g = 1.62m/s^2 for the moon is correct. Check your calculations
 
mgb_phys said:
Two methods
Conservation of energy
1/2mv^2 = mgh
Or motion equations:
v^2 = u^2 + 2gs (where final velocity is zero)

ps. g = 1.62m/s^2 for the moon is correct. Check your calculations

Thanks for your reply. I tried the equations again and I'm still getting the same answer. It is wrong and I don't understand why :(

Based on the conservation of energy equation you mentioned:
1/2mv^2 = mgh
1/2v^2 = gh
v^2 = 2gh
v = sqroot (2gh) = sqroot [(2)(1.62m/s^2)(370000m)]
v = 1095 m/s
 
Sorry the altitude is 370km so you can't assume that g is constant.
You need to do gravitational potential energy at the surface and at 370km - the difference is the KE

(Energy = GMm /r)
 
mgb_phys said:
Sorry the altitude is 370km so you can't assume that g is constant.
You need to do gravitational potential energy at the surface and at 370km - the difference is the KE

(Energy = GMm /r)

Ok, here is what I got using your advice:

GPE at the surface:
GMm/r = (6.67x10^-11 N m^2/kg^2)(7.35x10^22 kg) / 1.74x10^6 m = 2817500 J

GPE at 370km:
GMm/r = (6.67x10^-11 N m^2/kg^2)(7.35x10^22kg) / 370000m + 1.74x10^6 m = 2323436 J

2817500 J - 2323436 J = 494064 J = KE

Am I correct so far? Do I plug this number into 1/2mv^2 ?
 
Almost - you can't have Joules because you don't know the mass of the object (essentially you have assumed a 1kg mass) but that doesn't matter since you can also assume 1kg in the KE
 
I plugged in 494064 into KE = 1/2 mv^2

494064 = 1/2 (7.35x10^22kg) v^2
v = 3.66x10^-9

Does this sound correct?
 
No, the 'M' in that equation is the mass of the object you are throwing - not the mass of the moon.
 
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