Speed of light in a superconductor

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The discussion centers on the speed of light in superconductors, questioning the application of standard electromagnetic equations. It highlights that superconductors, exhibiting perfect diamagnetism, lead to a scenario where permeability approaches zero, suggesting an infinite speed of light, which is nonsensical. The conversation also touches on the distinction between phase and group velocity, noting that phase velocity can exceed the speed of light without implying superluminal information transfer. Additionally, it mentions that in perfect conductors, light does not penetrate due to infinite permittivity and zero resistance. Ultimately, the conclusion is that electromagnetic radiation does not propagate within an ideal superconductor.
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Could you please spot where is the fault in this reasoning? I suspect that some of the relations may not be applicable and needs to be substituted with something else (or I'm just making a gross mistake as usual...):

Speed of light in a material:

c=\sqrt{\frac{1}{\epsilon\mu}}

where permettivity is

\mu=\mu_r\mu_0

and suscettivity is

\chi_m=\mu_r - 1

which describes the magnetization of the material due to an external magnetic field

M=\chi_m H

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A superconductor behaves like a perfectly diamagnetic material, suppressing the internal field B because

\chi_m = - 1

M=-H

therefore

\mu_r = 0

\mu = 0

c=infinite

which clearly makes no sense...
 
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there are also negative index of refraction materials
which also mess that up.

i think the subtlety is the phase vs group velocity
of the light waves.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity

"...The phase velocity of electromagnetic radiation may under certain circumstances (e.g. in the case of anomalous dispersion) exceed the speed of light in a vacuum, but this does not indicate any superluminal information or energy transfer..."
 
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Also, in a perfect conductor, \epsilon = \infty. I don't know if this applies to superconductors (but they do offer practically zero resistance, yes?).
 
IIRC, the penetration depth of light into a conductor is proportionate to the resistivity, so in a perfect conductor light won't penetrate at all (the charge carries at the surface absorb all the light that isn't reflected).
 
What you are discovering is that you don't have electromagnetic radiation inside an ideal superconductor.
 
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