Spherical Charge Ball, Gauss law

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A discussion on the application of Gauss's Law to a spherical charged ball reveals that the electric field inside the sphere can be expressed as Er(r) = (Q/(4πa^4εo))r^2. The initial attempts to calculate the constant in the electric field formula led to confusion regarding the differential area element, with incorrect assumptions about dA. Ultimately, by enclosing the sphere with a Gaussian surface, participants clarified that the electric flux equals the electric field times the area, allowing for the correct substitution of radius a into the equation. The final consensus confirms that the electric field inside the charged sphere is correctly derived using Gauss's Law.
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Homework Statement



A spherical charged ball of radius a has total charge Q; there is no charge outside the ball and no sheet-charge on its surface. The (radial) field inside the ball has the form
Er(r) = constant x r2 for r between 0 and a.
Use Gauss's Law in integral form to evaluate the constant in this formula in terms of Q and a, and then rewrite the formula in terms of these parameters.

Homework Equations



∫E.dA=Q/εo


The Attempt at a Solution



Lets say constant is b and dA=4.pi.r^2

∫Er(r).dA=Q/εo

from 0 to a ∫b.r^2(4.pi.r^2) dr=Q/εo
(4.pi.b) from 0 to a ∫r^4 dr = Q/εo
(4.pi.b)(a^5/5)=Q/εo
b=(5Q)/(4.pi.a^5.εo)

When i replace b (the constant) in Er(r) i get

Er(r) = b x r2
Er(r) = (5Q)/(4.pi.a^5.εo) x r2
Er(r)= (5.Q.r^2)/(4.pi.a^5.εo)

but the answer is Er(r)= (Q.r^2)/(4.pi.a^4.εo)

can someone please tell me where am I miscalculating or i forgot to add something
 
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You say that dA = 4.pi.r^2 , but where is the dr coming from in your integral?

There is another way of expressing the differential area element. Look into that ;).
 
I used the wrong dA, however even if I use dA=2.pi.r dr I'm still off

from 0 to a ∫b.r^2(2.pi.r) dr=Q/εo
(2.pi.b) from 0 to a ∫r^3 dr = Q/εo
(2.pi.b)(a^4/4)=Q/εo
b=(2Q)/(pi.a^5.εo)

and when i replace b (the constant) in Er(r) i get

Er(r)= (2.Q.r^2)/(pi.a^4.εo)

I'm supposed to get 1/4 and not 2. I'm not familiar with other ways of expressing the differential area element
 
The problem also says that there is no sheet-charge on its surface. Try using that.

OK. nvm that. There is a simpler way. If you enclose the sphere with a gaussian surface, what can you say about the electric field flux going out.
 
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But wouldn't that just mean there is a magnetic field all around?

If I enclose the sphere with a gaussian surface the electric flux would just be equal to the electric field times the area of the sphere.
E.(4.pi.r^2)
 
hansbahia said:
If I enclose the sphere with a gaussian surface the electric flux would just be equal to the electric field times the area of the sphere.
E.(4.pi.r^2)

Exactly. And what does ∫E.dA represent? ;D
 
I still can't figure out
I mean..
electric flux= EA=Q/εo
EA=Q/εo
(b.r^2)(4.pi.r^2)=Q/εo
b.4pi.r^4=Q/εo
b=Q/(4.pi.r^4.εo)
 
Wait does that mean I can sub "a" for "r"? Therefore I get b=Q/(4.pi.a^4.εo)

Am I right?
 
hansbahia said:
Wait does that mean I can sub "a" for "r"? Therefore I get b=Q/(4.pi.a^4.εo)

Am I right?

Yes. You can make your gaussian surface as big (or small) as you want.
Now, why does letting r = a work? (hint: look at the problem statement).
 
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Because there is no charge outside the ball and no sheet-charge on its surface

Thankss a lot!

So simple
 
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