Spherical conductors connected by a wire.

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The problem involves two spherical conductors connected by a wire, with a total charge of 10.2 micro-coulombs distributed between them. The spheres have different radii, and the goal is to determine the electric field near the surface of the smaller sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the individual charges on the spheres, noting that the charges must sum to the total charge and maintain a ratio corresponding to their radii. There is an exploration of using voltage equations to set up relationships between the charges.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the nature of conductors and the equality of potential across them. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of this equality on the charges and potentials of the spheres.

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Participants are grappling with the mathematical relationships and ratios of charge and radius, indicating potential confusion or miscalculations in their attempts to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement


Two spherical conductors are connected by a long conducting wire, and a charge of 10.2 Micro-coulombs is placed in the combination. One sphere has a radius of 5.99 cm and the other has a radius of 7.99cm. What is the electric field near the surface of the smaller sphere. Answer in units of V/m.


Homework Equations


V = kQ/r

E = kQ/r2

k=8.99 x 109

q1 + q2 = Q

r1/r2 = q1/q2

The Attempt at a Solution


My only issue with this problem is trying to find the individual charges on both spheres. I know that they obviously need to add up to 10.2 micro-coulombs and that the ratio of the charges should be equal to the ratio of the radii. What I've been doing is trying to find the charges using the formula for voltage for both spheres and setting them equal to each other since they are connected by the same wire. Using the net charge formula, I set q2 to be equal to 10.2e-6 - q1. Now after I substitute that into the voltage formula, I get:

kq1/.0799 = (k(10.2e-6 q1))/.0599

After isolating q1 I get,

q1 = 6.802838063e-6

After subtracting that from the total charge, I get the other charge to be 3.397161937e-6

Even though they add up to be 10.2e-6, I come down to the problem that the ratio does not equal that of the radii which is 1.333889816.

I've been at this for the past 2 hours trying to find mistakes in my math and I can't seem to find out what I am doing wrong. Any help is appreciated.
 
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rofln said:

Homework Statement


Two spherical conductors are connected by a long conducting wire, and a charge of 10.2 Micro-coulombs is placed in the combination. One sphere has a radius of 5.99 cm and the other has a radius of 7.99cm. What is the electric field near the surface of the smaller sphere. Answer in units of V/m.

Homework Equations


V = kQ/r

E = kQ/r2

k=8.99 x 109

q1 + q2 = Q

r1/r2 = q1/q2

The Attempt at a Solution


My only issue with this problem is trying to find the individual charges on both spheres. I know that they obviously need to add up to 10.2 micro-coulombs and that the ratio of the charges should be equal to the ratio of the radii. What I've been doing is trying to find the charges using the formula for voltage for both spheres and setting them equal to each other since they are connected by the same wire. Using the net charge formula, I set q2 to be equal to 10.2e-6 - q1. Now after I substitute that into the voltage formula, I get:

kq1/.0799 = (k(10.2e-6 q1))/.0599

After isolating q1 I get,

q1 = 6.802838063e-6

After subtracting that from the total charge, I get the other charge to be 3.397161937e-6

Even though they add up to be 10.2e-6, I come down to the problem that the ratio does not equal that of the radii which is 1.333889816.

I've been at this for the past 2 hours trying to find mistakes in my math and I can't seem to find out what I am doing wrong. Any help is appreciated.
Hello rofln. Welcome to PF !

The two spheres are connected by a (conducting) wire. So in essence, all three objects for one conductor. What's true of the potential throughout a conductor under eltro-static conditions?
 
The potential everywhere is the same and constant everywhere inside of it.
 
rofln said:
The potential everywhere is the same and constant everywhere inside of it.
So the potential just outside the surface of the larger sphere is equal to the potential just outside the surface of the smaller sphere. Correct?

So, what's the ratio of the charge on the spheres?
 
The ratio of the charges should be the same as the potential?
 
The potentials are the same. The radii are different.
 

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