Spring Mass System Approximations questions

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The discussion centers on the rationale behind adding one-third of the spring's mass to the total mass in spring mass system calculations. The original poster seeks clarification on why this specific approximation is considered effective, beyond just accounting for the weight added to the spring. They mention considerations like air friction and internal losses but find them insufficient for understanding this approximation. The conversation highlights a common confusion regarding the physics of spring systems and the need for accurate mass representation in calculations. Understanding this approximation is crucial for precise modeling in physics and engineering applications.
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I have been trying to figure out why it's considered a "good" approximation in spring mass calculations to add 1/3 of the mass of the spring to the total mass of the system. I understand the need to add SOME extra mass (other than the mass of the weight added to the bottom of the spring for example) but do not understand why specifically that amount is needed. I've thought about air friction losses and losses internal to the spring, but have still come up with nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

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