Standing Wave Period for Third Harmonic Oscillation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the period of oscillation for a rope oscillating in a third-harmonic standing wave pattern, given its second-harmonic displacement equation. The user initially misapplied the formula T=2π/w, using the angular frequency for the second harmonic instead of the third harmonic. It was clarified that the length of the rope remains constant, and the tension does not change, allowing for consistent wave speed calculations. The correct wavelength for the third harmonic was determined to be 4, leading to the correct period of oscillation. The final confirmation indicated that the calculations aligned with the expected answers.
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Homework Statement


A rope, under a tension of 209 N and fixed at both ends, oscillates in a second-harmonic standing wave pattern. The displacement of the rope is given by
y=0.49sin(πx/3)sin(12πt)
What are (a) the length of the rope, (b) the speed of the waves on the rope, and (c)the mass of the rope? (d) If the rope oscillates in a third-harmonic standing wave pattern, what will be the period of oscillation?

Homework Equations


T=2π/w

The Attempt at a Solution


I have solved part a,b,c but I got part d wrong. I simply used T=2π/w
==> T=2π/(12π)=0.1666666...=0.167s
And this is not the correct answer.
Please point out where I did wrong
 
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i_hate_math said:

Homework Statement


A rope, under a tension of 209 N and fixed at both ends, oscillates in a second-harmonic standing wave pattern. The displacement of the rope is given by
y=0.49sin(πx/3)sin(12πt)
What are (a) the length of the rope, (b) the speed of the waves on the rope, and (c)the mass of the rope? (d) If the rope oscillates in a third-harmonic standing wave pattern, what will be the period of oscillation?

Homework Equations


T=2π/w

The Attempt at a Solution


I have solved part a,b,c but I got part d wrong. I simply used T=2π/w
==> T=2π/(12π)=0.1666666...=0.167s
And this is not the correct answer.
Please point out where I did wrong
The given 12π is for the second harmonic. Part d asks about the third harmonic.
 
haruspex said:
The given 12π is for the second harmonic. Part d asks about the third harmonic.
I see, but is it okay to assume that the length of the rope remains the same?
 
i_hate_math said:
I see, but is it okay to assume that the length of the rope remains the same?
Yes.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.
With the same L, I got speed v=sqrt(T•L/m) where T is tension, so v remains the same too. the wavelength is changed since its now in third harmonic pattern, L=6=(3/2)λ.
==> λ=4
==> λ•f=v and from part b, v=36 is the correct answer
==> v=1/9=0.111...
 
i_hate_math said:
With the same L, I got speed v=sqrt(T•L/m) where T is tension, so v remains the same too. the wavelength is changed since its now in third harmonic pattern, L=6=(3/2)λ.
==> λ=4
==> λ•f=v and from part b, v=36 is the correct answer
==> v=1/9=0.111...
Did you mean T=0.111?
 
haruspex said:
Did you mean T=0.111?
Yes. Sorry about the typo
 
i_hate_math said:
Yes. Sorry about the typo
Looks right.
 
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haruspex said:
Looks right.
I checked with the answers, it is!
 
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