Statically indeterminate axially loaded problem

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving calculating the total stretch in a member under axial loads. The problem states that the member can stretch without coming into contact with the ground, but once the loads are applied, the member stretches until it comes into contact with the ground, creating a statically indeterminate situation. Equations of statics and the use of Young's Modulus for the material of the member are necessary to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


FAB = FBC etc...

The Attempt at a Solution


FAB = FBC + 300kN = FCD = FDE + 600kN

Sorry for another post. I'm really not sure where to go with this one...
 

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You've got a situation involving axial loads.

How would you calculate the total stretch in the member, assuming the member could stretch under load without coming into contact with the ground?
 
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Using ΔL = FL/AE ?
 
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Yes.
 
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So ∂ = 4.5mm = FAB(150mm)/125mm2EAB + (FBC + 300)(150mm)/125mm2EBC + FCD(150mm)/200mm2ECD + (FDE + 600)(150mm)/200mm2EDE ?
 
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Matthew Heywood said:
So ∂ = 4.5mm = FAB(150mm)/125mm2EAB + (FBC + 300)(150mm)/125mm2EBC + FCD(150mm)/200mm2ECD + (FDE + 600)(150mm)/200mm2EDE ?
Not necessarily.

Read the problem statement carefully. There is a gap of 4.5 mm between the bottom of the member and the ground, when the member is unloaded. Once the loads are applied to the member, it stretches until contact with the ground prevents further extension, which suggests that a reaction force with the ground develops.

You need to write equations of statics here along with calculating the extensions in the member under load, because the member becomes statically indeterminate once contact is made with the ground and the reaction develops. It also means you're probably going to need to use a value for Young's Modulus for the material in the member in order to solve this problem.
 
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Ah okay. So you'd use ∂ = 0, FAB = FBC + 300kN = FCD = FDE + 600kN and E = 200GPa as it is steel?
 
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Matthew Heywood said:
Ah okay. So you'd use ∂ = 0, FAB = FBC + 300kN = FCD = FDE + 600kN

No, the deflection δ ≠ 0, since the member is loaded and is going to stretch.

What you need to do first is find out by how much the member would stretch if the ground wasn't in the way, and then determine what reactions would develop so that the member only stretches 4.5 mm when it reaches equilibrium with the ground. (Hint: a free body diagram would be helpful here.)

and E = 200GPa as it is steel?

This is OK.
 

What is a statically indeterminate axially loaded problem?

A statically indeterminate axially loaded problem is a type of structural analysis problem where the number of unknown forces or reactions is more than the number of available equations. In other words, the problem cannot be solved by using only the equations of equilibrium.

What causes a statically indeterminate axially loaded problem?

This type of problem occurs when a structure is designed with redundant members or supports, meaning there are more members or supports than are necessary for the structure to be stable. This can also happen when there are internal hinges or discontinuities in the structure.

How do you solve a statically indeterminate axially loaded problem?

There are several methods for solving this type of problem, including the force method, displacement method, and slope-deflection method. These methods involve using additional equations or assumptions to determine the unknown forces or reactions.

What are the challenges of solving a statically indeterminate axially loaded problem?

One of the main challenges is that the additional equations or assumptions used to solve the problem may introduce errors or inaccuracies. Additionally, the solution may be more complex and time-consuming compared to a statically determinate problem.

What are the real-life applications of statically indeterminate axially loaded problems?

This type of problem is commonly encountered in the design and analysis of bridges, buildings, and other structures. It is important to consider the potential for redundancy in these structures to ensure their stability and safety.

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