Strain and Stress in Thin-Walled Hoops Under Pressure

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The discussion focuses on calculating the change in diameter (Δd) of a thin-walled hoop subjected to internal pressure (p). The stress in the hoop is defined by the formula σh = p d / (2 t), and the relationship between stress, strain, and Young's modulus (E) is explored using Hooke's law. Participants discuss the application of Poisson's ratio and the strain-displacement equation to derive the relationship between these variables. The conversation concludes with clarification that the stress is the same in magnitude but opposite in direction if pressure is applied externally, emphasizing that the total stress must equal zero when pressures are balanced. Understanding these principles is essential for analyzing the mechanical behavior of thin-walled structures under pressure.
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Homework Statement



Hi all, this isn't exactly homework, but it is nonetheless a problem I would like to solve, so here goes.

Consider a thin-walled ring/hoop with diameter "d" and thickness "t". I want to know the change of diameter "Δd" due to the stress caused by pressure "p" being applied in this hoop (from inside to outside).

Homework Equations



So, EngineeringToolBox tells me that the stress in the hoop is σh = p d / (2 t)

The Attempt at a Solution



Can I apply Hooke's law directly here ? knowing the young's modulus of elasticity "E" for my material, can I say that σh = E * strain, where strain = Δd/d ? if not, what is the relation between the stress calculated from the first formula, the strain, and "E" ?
 
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Jony S said:

Homework Statement



Hi all, this isn't exactly homework, but it is nonetheless a problem I would like to solve, so here goes.

Consider a thin-walled ring/hoop with diameter "d" and thickness "t". I want to know the change of diameter "Δd" due to the stress caused by pressure "p" being applied in this hoop (from inside to outside).

Homework Equations



So, EngineeringToolBox tells me that the stress in the hoop is σh = p d / (2 t)

The Attempt at a Solution



Can I apply Hooke's law directly here ? knowing the young's modulus of elasticity "E" for my material, can I say that σh = E * strain, where strain = Δd/d ? if not, what is the relation between the stress calculated from the first formula, the strain, and "E" ?
Are you familiar with the 3D version of Hooke's law, which includes all the stress and strain components.
 
Chestermiller said:
Are you familiar with the 3D version of Hooke's law, which includes all the stress and strain components.

These concepts are fairly new to me so I'm not "familiar" with much. Are you talking about Poisson's ratio, i.e., the expansion/compression of the material in perpendicular directions ? so I would add this:

σh - v(σr+σz)= E * strain

?
 
Jony S said:
These concepts are fairly new to me so I'm not "familiar" with much. Are you talking about Poisson's ratio, i.e., the expansion/compression of the material in perpendicular directions ? so I would add this:

σh - v(σr+σz)= E * strain

?
Yes. This is one of the equations you would use. The other relationship is the strain-displacement equation for the hoop strain. Do you know that equation?
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes. This is one of the equations you would use. The other relationship is the strain-displacement equation for the hoop strain. Do you know that equation?

No.

Searched a bit more and found this:

https://nptel.ac.in/courses/Webcourse-contents/IIT-ROORKEE/strength of materials/lects & picts/image/lect16/lecture16.htm

In the end of the first part there is a formula for displacement. This appears to be the combination of the two equations that we already had, i.e., strain = deltaD/D, and
strain = PD/4tE * (2-v) (σr is zero and σz is σh/2 ?)

v and E are characteristics of the material so we have everything ?

edit: corrected some mistakes
 
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Jony S said:


No.

Searched a bit more and found this:

https://nptel.ac.in/courses/Webcourse-contents/IIT-ROORKEE/strength of materials/lects & picts/image/lect16/lecture16.htm

In the end of the first part there is a formula for displacement. This appears to be the combination of the two equations that we already had, i.e., strain = deltaD/D, and
strain = PD/4tE * (2-v) (σr is zero and σz is σh/2 ?)

v and E are characteristics of the material so we have everything ?

edit: corrected some mistakes
Yes, that's what I get (assuming that the ##(2-\nu)## is in the numerator
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes, that's what I get (assuming that the ##(2-\nu)## is in the numerator
Yes it is :)

Thanks for the help!
 
Jony S said:
Yes it is :)

Thanks for the help!
No problem. Nicely done.
 
Chestermiller said:
No problem. Nicely done.
Extra question for clarification, the stress is the same (opposite signal) if the pressure is applied externally, right ? If the pressure is the same inside and outside the total stress has to be zero.
 
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Jony S said:
Extra question for clarification, the stress is the same (opposite signal) if the pressure is applied externally, right ? If the pressure is the same inside and outside the total stress has to be zero
Yes. p is really the pressure difference between inside and outside. For a cylinder in atmospheric air, it's the gauge pressure inside.
 
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