Structural Mechanics Distinction Task

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The discussion focuses on calculating axial loads in structural mechanics, with specific values derived for vertical and horizontal loads based on given parameters. Participants clarify the distinction between selecting a material and justifying its use, emphasizing the need to demonstrate that the chosen material has adequate strength properties and safety factors exceeding calculated requirements. There is confusion regarding the application of safety factors to previous calculations, with some participants asserting that safety factors are relevant for material design rather than structural analysis. Additionally, the necessity of calculating angles is questioned, as the axial load on the column is stated to be 606 kN without lateral forces. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding both material selection and the structural analysis process.
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Hi,

I'm stuck on answering the attached question, I know how to find the axial within the column however I do know what the question means by justifying a chosen material, help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Alfie
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The way how I found out calculate axial load is here: https://www.hunker.com/13400857/how-to-calculate-the-axial-load
To find axial load , 5m / 6m = 0.83
Arc tangent , tan-1(0.83) = 39.69
Cosine of the force , Cos(39.69) = 0.77
Sine of the force , Sin(39.69) = 0.64
Axial load in the vertical direction , (200kN/m X 6 = 1200kN / 2 = 600kN + self weight of 6kN = 606kN) So 606kN X 0.77 = 466.62kN
Axial load in the horizontal direction , (200kN/m X 6 = 1200kN / 2 = 600kN + self weight of 6kN = 606kN) So 606kN X 0.64 = 387.84kN
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Terra_Bitz said:
I do know what the question means by justifying a chosen material
Well, do you think that balsawood, for example, or perhaps styrofoam, would be good materials to use? Why or why not?
 
phinds said:
Well, do you think that balsawood, for example, or perhaps styrofoam, would be good materials to use? Why or why not?

Ah right, so essentially choose a suitable material, such as steel or RC, and talk about its pro's and cons.

I was confused when it say's 'justify' I wasn't sure as to whether it was asking me to choose a material then design a section.

Thank you Phinds
 
Terra_Bitz said:
Ah right, so essentially choose a suitable material, such as steel or RC, and talk about its pro's and cons.

I was confused when it say's 'justify' I wasn't sure as to whether it was asking me to choose a material then design a section.

Thank you Phinds
yes, but I think "justify" is perhaps a bit more firm than you are taking it to be. I would say it's not just choosing and discussing a material, it's specifically showing that it has strength properties that are at has a good safety factor in excess of what your calculations show is needed. I realize you may have already had that in mind without specifically saying so.
 
phinds said:
yes, but I think "justify" is perhaps a bit more firm than you are taking it to be. I would say it's not just choosing and discussing a material, it's specifically showing that it has strength properties that are at least a good safety factor in excess of what your calculations show is needed. I realize you may have already had that in mind without specifically saying so.

Apologies but I'm not sure I follow, I've researched what the safety factor is for structural steelwork in building, being 4-6 ( https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/factors-safety-fos-d_1624.html ), however how do I apply this to my previous calculations?
 
Terra_Bitz said:
how do I apply this to my previous calculations?
No idea. Maybe someone else here will chime in.
 
I'm not sure why you are calculating the angle: arctan(5/6) ??
The axial load on the column is just 606 kN, and there are no lateral forces on the column.

Safety factors are used when it comes to material design. I don't think the purpose of this problem is to design a section. You don't apply safety factors to structural analysis
 
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