Stuck in AM Radio Mode: Ranting and Raving on the Airwaves

[Cyrus]

I accidently got into AM radio mode in my car for the last two days, and I can't figure out how to take it back into FM because there isn't a stupid AM/FM button. I had to have hit some funky combination of buttons to go into AM and now I am stuck. ANYWAYS, I've been stuck with this AM radio for the past few days now.

WoW.

This stuff is intense. One bozo is Michael Savage. This guy is a real jerk. He was saying stuff like: "See that, those evil white men with slide rules built the golden gate bridge in the 30s. With just a slide rule, those evil white men (sarcastically)."

Then there was Sean Hannity talking about how Obama wants to make this country have currency that's part of the world economy (think euros) and how were turning into a socialistic nation. On and on and on hating Obama, these two.

Now, I don't mind the if republicans disagree, but the tone of what these guys are saying is really to the level of hate speech. It's pretty absurd. Frankly, I'm shocked they have an audience. That scares me.

They weren't just against Obama, they were nasty about it - and I mean nasty. This Savage bozo wouldn't even call him obama, he called him 'chuckles'.

 

[Danger]

You could just shut if off.

 

[chroot]

Who gives a damn? They're on the vastly less-popular AM stations... for a reason.

- Warren

 

[Pythagorean]

Obama bashing will continue into the next presidency. This country is all proud of it's manly republican ways

 

[Cyrus]

Who gives a damn? They're on the vastly less-popular AM stations... for a reason.

- Warren

I care because the level of hate they spout of should be sensored. It's way way over the line.

 

[JasonRox]

What's so bad about being a Socialist? I'm a socialist.

 

[Pythagorean]

What's so bad about being a Socialist? I'm a socialist.

case in point!

 

[Cyrus]

Hiyooo! :)

Savage and Hannity warned me about people like YOU jason.

 

[Pythagorean]

I care because the level of hate they spout of should be sensored. It's way way over the line.

By opening their mouths to breathe fire, they don't really change anybody's mind. They mostly just reinforce what people already think, whether they agree or disagree.

 

[JasonRox]

I'm a bad ***. Better watch out!

 

[JasonRox]

˙dn ʞɔnɟ ǝɥʇ ʇnɥs os 'lıʌǝ ɯ,ı
I censored it. Kind of.

You can swear upside down?

 

[Danger]

How the hell did you do that?

 

[wolram]

We had that hook character, it took years to be rid of him, laws on preaching hate are to soft, if it were up to me they would have an island with their name on it.

 

[Pythagorean]

why does everyone keep spelling censored wrong? :(

 

[Focus]

I sometimes think that I get a rather one sided view of America. First the war fiasco with more than half of the population believing that Osama was connected with Iraq, then the Kensas education board voting on what is science and what isn't and now this. Is it really as bad as it appears to me?

 

[JasonRox]

why does everyone keep spelling censored wrong? :(

What are you talking about?

 

[drankin]

Michael Savage is the man! I love this guy. I don't necessarily agree with him but he is intelligent and amusing.

 

[Cyrus]

Michael Savage is the man! I love this guy. I don't necessarily agree with him but he is intelligent and amusing.

Im curious, what do you like about this guy?

 

[rootX]

Im curious, what do you like about this guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage_(commentator )

I got good reasons not to like him:

and claims that liberalism and same-sex marriage are degrading American culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage_(commentator)#Controversies

Savage was quoted as saying, Muslims, “need deportation”; and that adherents of Islam would do well to “take your religion and shove it up your behind” because “I’m sick of you.”[45] On his show and website, Savage has countered that CAIR is linked to terrorist organizations, and was an "unindicted co-conspirator in an anti-terrorist trial". On November 8, 2007, following a campaign orchestrated by CAIR meant to get Savage off the air by going after his sponsors, Citrix Systems, Inc. pulled its advertisements from his show.[46] On November 15, OfficeMax followed suit.[47] TrustedID also dropped their sponsorship of The Savage Nation, according to their CEO this was also due to lack of sales

On March 28, 2006, Savage encouraged his listeners to burn Mexican flags to counter a pro-immigration group that had burned American flags.[43]

Yes you are right that he promotes hate.

 

[JasonRox]

He sure sounds like a nut job. If I were a right winger, I would certainly not choose him to represent us. He represents people just like him, nut jobs.

 

[drankin]

Im curious, what do you like about this guy?

He always backs up his points. He tells hilarious stories about his childhood. He reminds us of how things were in America once upon a time. He gives a unique perspective on current events.

Listen to him for a few weeks and it doesn't matter if you hate or like him, you like him anyway. LOL.

 

[Danger]

He reminds us of how things were in America once upon a time.

Ah, yes... the good old days of burning witches at the stake, lynching blacks, keeping the women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen... I can see the attraction.

 

[Cyrus]

He always backs up his points. He tells hilarious stories about his childhood. He reminds us of how things were in America once upon a time. He gives a unique perspective on current events.

Listen to him for a few weeks and it doesn't matter if you hate or like him, you like him anyway. LOL.

I'm wondering what did he claim things were back in the day? I have a feeling its a rosy picture that doesn't reflect the reality of the time.

 

[JasonRox]

He always backs up his points. He tells hilarious stories about his childhood. He reminds us of how things were in America once upon a time. He gives a unique perspective on current events.

Listen to him for a few weeks and it doesn't matter if you hate or like him, you like him anyway. LOL.

So, he likes hairy women?

 

[russ_watters]

I care because the level of hate they spout of should be sensored. It's way way over the line.

What line?

 

[Cyrus]

What line?

The line of being criticism and being hate speech. This kind of news broadcasting should have government regulation that enforces all factual information be (a) correct, and (b) respectful.

It's ok to disagree with solid facts and present it in a reasonable manner. Calling the president 'chuckels' while spewing all kinds of nonsense and making racist remarks shouldn't be allowed if it want's to be any form of a news program.

He's more than welcome to say those things provided he calls it a commedy show.

 

[drankin]

The line of being criticism and being hate speech. This kind of news broadcasting should have government regulation that enforces all factual information be (a) correct, and (b) respectful.

It's ok to disagree with solid facts and present it in a reasonable manner. Calling the president 'chuckels' while spewing all kinds of nonsense and making racist remarks shouldn't be allowed if it want's to be any form of a news program.

He's more than welcome to say those things provided he calls it a commedy show.

Wow, so you want the government to come in and censor public radio? He can't be racist, the FCC would throw his *** off the air. He has an opinion and a large audience. I've listen to him for years and I never got that he was racist in any way. If you are going to call racism then you need to back that one up.

He definitely tells it how he sees it. Any censorship of that would simply be infringing on his right to free speech. And, you will need to define "hate speech", and even if one fell into that category, how would it be enforced without infringing on ones rights?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

The line of being criticism and being hate speech. This kind of news broadcasting should have government regulation that enforces all factual information be (a) correct, and (b) respectful.

It's ok to disagree with solid facts and present it in a reasonable manner. Calling the president 'chuckels' while spewing all kinds of nonsense and making racist remarks shouldn't be allowed if it want's to be any form of a news program.

He's more than welcome to say those things provided he calls it a commedy show.

I really don't want any government agency deciding what is "correct" and what is "respectful". I say let the jack***es be jack***es. Its the easiest way to show people who they are. When you censor people you martyr them. People will listen to them and stick up for them if they see them as an underdog being ill treated by the government. They won't listen to reason or facts in the face of a cause. There are still people out there that honestly believe in 9/11 conspiracies about bombs and such.
Besides, their liberal counterparts are hardly any better. They just target different people and take up different issues.

 

[Cyrus]

Wow, so you want the government to come in and censor public radio? He can't be racist, the FCC would throw his *** off the air. He has an opinion and a large audience. I've listen to him for years and I never got that he was racist in any way. If you are going to call racism then you need to back that one up.

He definitely tells it how he sees it. Any censorship of that would simply be infringing on his right to free speech. And, you will need to define "hate speech", and even if one fell into that category, how would it be enforced without infringing on ones rights?

No, I clearly did not say that. I said the government should have the ability to fine, and take off the air news programs that give false information and don't do so in a professional manner.

The problem is these people call themselves commenators or pundits, so there technically not a news source. That being said, I would still like to see some form of a check in place so these people shut the hell up.

The man is a racist. I've heard him with my own ears talking about how the 'white man' built the golden gate bridge. He's bonkers.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Michael Savage is a complete idiot. Here are a few quotes from one show that I caught.

Liberals are all fascists and perverts

Young people have their minds polluted by college

The raid on the [so called] Mormon complex [they're not really Mormons, but he meant the child abuse case] recently was done to prevent Romney from getting back into the race.

Perhaps the close race between Hillary and Obama is really a conspiracy to overshadow McCain. [at least he only presented this as a theory]

Fear Obama! I think he will, by executive order, legalize gay marriage

Obama will make appointments such as: Al Sharpton as Secretary of Labor, and Jessie Jackson as Supreme Court Judge

Fear Obama! Fear what he will do! [he said this many times, he said this many times, he said this many times]

Al Sharpton was protesting and arrested today because he is jealous of Obama

The white race is dying out and it’s all because of the liberal agenda. Gays, boys who only want sex and don’t want to make babies and become men, and Hollywood whores, are the reason. [As near as I could tell]

Hate crime laws only apply to whites

White people who support Obama are just liberals who feel guilty [about slavery, apparently]

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=233824

Chroot, I wouldn't underestimate the influence these idiots have. Recall that the pill-popping donut Limbaugh is the defacto leader of the Republican party. Much of working class America listens to these empty shells every day.

Cyrus, I completely understand how you feel, but we would be better served to discredit these clowns and silence them through education, rather than legislation.

I don't know if the fact that they have an audience is more terrifying, or pathetic.

 

[Cyrus]

I really don't want any government agency deciding what is "correct" and what is "respectful". I say let the jack***es be jack***es. Its the easiest way to show people who they are. When you censor people you martyr them. People will listen to them and stick up for them if they see them as an underdog being ill treated by the government. They won't listen to reason or facts in the face of a cause. There are still people out there that honestly believe in 9/11 conspiracies about bombs and such.
Besides, their liberal counterparts are hardly any better. They just target different people and take up different issues.

Which gets to the other program on AM radio. Some dude was talking about this bank in france controlling all the money and the US government and how the luminati controls the world.

<Smacks forehead>

Come on people, this is 2009. We should be past this kind of ignorance.

At least CSPAN radio isn't quite so bad. But sometimes the callers are pretty stupid too.

 

[DaveC426913]

I accidently got into AM radio mode in my car for the last two days, and I can't figure out how to take it back into FM because there isn't a stupid AM/FM button.

"Double-click" your pre-set station buttons.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

From the thread linked; from Gokul.

Approximate weekly audience (in millions):

Rush Limbaugh - 13.5+
Sean Hannity - 12.5 +
Michael Savage / Dr Laura Schlessinger - 8.0+
Glenn Beck / Laura Ingraham - 5.0+
Neal Boortz / Mark Levin / Dave Ramsey - 4.0+
Mike Gallagher / Michael Medved - 3.75+

http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/57/listid/10652/Personalities/Top+Talk+Radio+Shows.aspx

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Which gets to the other program on AM radio. Some dude was talking about this bank in france controlling all the money and the US government and how the luminati controls the world.

<Smacks forehead>

Come on people, this is 2009. We should be past this kind of ignorance.

At least CSPAN radio isn't quite so bad. But sometimes the callers are pretty stupid too.

I listen to Coast to Coast (Ufology, conspiracy theories, ect.) all the time. Its entertaining! lol
And also a good example of people who make themselves popular by claiming to be censored and harassed by the government.

 

[russ_watters]

The line of being criticism and being hate speech. This kind of news broadcasting should have government regulation that enforces all factual information be (a) correct, and (b) respectful.

It's ok to disagree with solid facts and present it in a reasonable manner. Calling the president 'chuckels' while spewing all kinds of nonsense and making racist remarks shouldn't be allowed if it want's to be any form of a news program.

He's more than welcome to say those things provided he calls it a commedy show.

Ok... so you think that line makes or should make that kind of speech illegal? It might be detestable, but you're on the wrong side of the acceptable free speech line.

The man is a racist. I've heard him with my own ears talking about how the 'white man' built the golden gate bridge. He's bonkers.

Racism isn't illegal.

 

[Cyrus]

Ok... so you think that line makes or should make that kind of speech illegal? It might be detestable, but you're on the wrong side of the acceptable free speech line. Racism isn't illegal.

I think this whole 'free speech line' is taken way too far. The right to free speech isn't absolute. What I'm proposing is that news media be limited in what they can present. They have to be [a] factually accurate (no speculative BS reporting anymore. If they want to report the news, they have to get their facts right) they have to be professional when they do it. Bozo's like Bill O'tool the fool shouldn't be allowed to present that garabge as 'fair and balanced' news.

In other words, news like News Hour on PBS, Charlie Rose, or Meet the Press.

I don't care for clowns like olberman either. It should be a given that yelling at people on your show should get you off the air.

 

[drankin]

I think this whole 'free speech line' is taken way too far. The right to free speech isn't absolute. What I'm proposing is that news media be limited in what they can present. They have to be [a] factually accurate (no speculative BS reporting anymore. If they want to report the news, they have to get their facts right) they have to be professional when they do it. Bozo's like Bill O'tool the fool shouldn't be allowed to present that garabge as 'fair and balanced' news.

In other words, news like News Hour on PBS, Charlie Rose, or Meet the Press.

I don't care for clowns like olberman either.

You live in the wrong country to see censorship like that. China has a pretty good censorship program! :)

 

[Cyrus]

You live in the wrong country to see censorship like that. China has a pretty good censorship program! :)

Not really. What I'm saying is in no way sensorship of good ideas. In fact, its simply a filter for bad, unsupported nonsense. I fail to see how this compares to China where they sensor anything that goes against the government.

 

[rootX]

Better to have informed listeners. I don't think anyone who's informed and rational would take these shows seriously or would even listen to them.

But, overly biased new sources prevent that so I would also say that new sources should be held accountable for what kind of information they are delivering.

 

[drankin]

Not really. What I'm saying is in no way sensorship of good ideas. In fact, its simply a filter for bad, unsupported nonsense. I fail to see how this compares to China where they sensor anything that goes against the government.

The problem is, who determines the filter? The way our society works, the listeners are the filter. If they don't listen, the programs go away. They are supported by advertisements after all. If no one listens, no one will advertise with them. So there you go, it's filtered the old fashioned way.

 

[Cyrus]

The problem is, who determines the filter? The way our society works, the listeners are the filter. If they don't listen, the programs go away. They are supported by advertisements after all. If no one listens, no one will advertise with them. So there you go, it's filtered the old fashioned way.

What do you mean who deterimines the filter? I already told you. It's based on fact. If you have a running history of presenting information that is factually incorrect you're gone. It's the same way creationists abuse and misuse principles of science to prop up their arguments. They would not be allowed to have a news program because what they are presenting is bogus.

In other words, the news needs peer review.

 

[drankin]

What do you mean who deterimines the filter? I already told you. It's based on fact. If you have a running history of presenting information that is factually incorrect you're gone. It's the same way creationists abuse and misuse principles of science to prop up their arguments. They would not be allowed to have a news program because what they are presenting is bogus.

In other words, the news needs peer review.

Well, Michael Savage isn't a news man. He reads the news and gives his perspective. If he is your example, then you are hanging the wrong man. Peer review would require all the news networks to critique each other. But that wouldn't do anything, really. They have no authority over each other. The tabloids would be screwed if there were a "news police".

 

[OAQfirst]

I think this whole 'free speech line' is taken way too far. The right to free speech isn't absolute. What I'm proposing is that news media be limited in what they can present. They have to be [a] factually accurate (no speculative BS reporting anymore. If they want to report the news, they have to get their facts right) they have to be professional when they do it. Bozo's like Bill O'tool the fool shouldn't be allowed to present that garabge as 'fair and balanced' news.

In other words, news like News Hour on PBS, Charlie Rose, or Meet the Press.

I don't care for clowns like olberman either. It should be a given that yelling at people on your show should get you off the air.

Nah. It's just like pot. Those people who do this stuff and come out about it make it easier for the rest of us to sort out the riffraff. When some guy informs me that O'Reilly is all that, I don't have to wonder if I should take him seriously or waste time considering what they have to say.

 

[Cyrus]

Well, Michael Savage isn't a news man. He reads the news and gives his perspective. If he is your example, then you are hanging the wrong man. Peer review would require all the news networks to critique each other. But that wouldn't do anything, really. They have no authority over each other. The tabloids would be screwed if there were a "news police".

Good, because there crap-o-la. I couldn't care less if they all vaporized overnight. I really don't need to see if Oprah lost 22lbs! They can fill that shelf slot with Popular Science, or something about Art, or Literature, or real News. Anything of actual value to the person that picks it up and reads it.

BTW: real news: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4883166n

 

[lisab]

Yeah, AM radio is pretty much a wasteland. Hope you can figure out how to get back to FM soon...dog forbid, you may have to consult the User's Manual .

 

[Cyrus]

Yeah, AM radio is pretty much a wasteland. Hope you can figure out how to get back to FM soon...dog forbid, you may have to consult the User's Manual .

I'm a man. I don't need no stinking 'users manual'. I kept hitting button after button. I actually figured out for the first time the off button! You have to hold it. If you just press it it cycles to CD, RADIO, or AUX. I just put it on AUX because it has no sound if there's nothing plugged in... lol.

 

[Redbelly98]

I remember back when AUX meant CD.

 

[DaveC426913]

I'm a man. I don't need no stinking 'users manual'. I kept hitting button after button. I actually figured out for the first time the off button! You have to hold it. If you just press it it cycles to CD, RADIO, or AUX. I just put it on AUX because it has no sound if there's nothing plugged in... lol.

Press your station button twice.

 

[DaveC426913]

Good, because there crap-o-la. I couldn't care less if they all vaporized overnight. I really don't need to see if Oprah lost 22lbs!

Yeah yeah. The world according to Cyrus. My kid thinks the same way:

"Everything I don't care for should be eliminated. Everything I do like should get special treatment."

and

"The Government (or better yet, me) should have special magical powers that magically filter the factual stuff from the garbage, and eliminate the bad stuff. This power will never run afoul of the sensibilites of intelligent people (me), only of idiots (which it can magically distinguish between of course) and will never get out of control and infringe upon my rights."

and

"This should all happen without changing my right to live in a free country with freedom of speech and unfettered access to information."

Uh huh.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Press your station button twice.

That's the way mine works. If you hit the preset button multiple times it will switch over to AM presets.