Stuck in AM Radio Mode: Ranting and Raving on the Airwaves

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The discussion centers around frustrations with AM radio hosts, particularly Michael Savage and Sean Hannity, who are criticized for their hateful rhetoric towards political figures, especially Obama. Participants express concern over the tone of their commentary, labeling it as hate speech and suggesting it should be regulated for factual accuracy and respectfulness. Some defend Savage, arguing he provides entertainment and a unique perspective, while others highlight his controversial statements as harmful. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of censorship and free speech, with differing opinions on whether government intervention is appropriate. Overall, the thread reflects a deep divide on how to handle inflammatory political discourse in media.
  • #61
Cyrus said:
Mmmmmmm, that's a bad idea.
It would be funny.

Imagine people living together operating under different sets of laws.

Driver1: "Hey! you just rear-ended me!"
Driver2: "So? I'm Liberal; it's legal."
Driver1: "Well I'm Conservative; I'm allowed to shoot you for it!"
 
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  • #62
DaveC426913 said:
It would be funny.

Imagine people living together operating under different sets of laws.

Driver1: "Hey! you just rear-ended me!"
Driver2: "So? I'm Liberal; it's legal."
Driver1: "Well I'm Conservative; I'm allowed to shoot you for it!"

:biggrin:

"Say your prayers, hippie!" BLAMMMM!

There should probably be a border. Good fences make good neighbors.
 
  • #63
DaveC426913 said:
It would be funny.

Imagine people living together operating under different sets of laws.

Driver1: "Hey! you just rear-ended me!"
Driver2: "So? I'm Liberal; it's legal."
Driver1: "Well I'm Conservative; I'm allowed to shoot you for it!"

That's good use of ambiguity: He wouldn't be allowed to shoot people who rear end him. He'd just be allowed to shoot liberals
 
  • #64
Math Is Hard said:
:biggrin:
There should probably be a border. Good fences make good neighbors.
Well, that's a different ball of wax, since it would require relocating a very large number of people to create the segregation. Iblis' idea was to not make a territorial distinction.

(Or you could just make some sort of right-of-way through the heartland, connecting California to the East Coast... :rolleyes:)
 
  • #65
DaveC426913 said:
Well, that's a different ball of wax, since it would require relocating a very large number of people to create the segregation. Iblis' idea was to not make a territorial distinction.

(Or you could just make some sort of right-of-way through the heartland, connecting California to the East Coast... :rolleyes:)

We could call it the pink belt!
 
  • #66
DaveC426913 said:
Yeah yeah. The world according to Cyrus. My kid thinks the same way:

"Everything I don't care for should be eliminated. Everything I do like should get special treatment."

and

"The Government (or better yet, me) should have special magical powers that magically filter the factual stuff from the garbage, and eliminate the bad stuff. This power will never run afoul of the sensibilites of intelligent people (me), only of idiots (which it can magically distinguish between of course) and will never get out of control and infringe upon my rights."

and

"This should all happen without changing my right to live in a free country with freedom of speech and unfettered access to information."

Uh huh.


Now your starting to understand!
 
  • #67
JasonRox said:
What's so bad about being a Socialist? I'm a socialist.

I agree; I don't see the big deal about socialism. People in general seem to have this absurd fear of communism and socialism, probably since McCarthy. Even the teachers in my high school seemed to teach us that we should fear them.
 
  • #68
jacksonpeeble said:
I agree; I don't see the big deal about socialism. People in general seem to have this absurd fear of communism and socialism, probably since McCarthy. Even the teachers in my high school seemed to teach us that we should fear them.

They're good theories, but they've been shown to have flaws (in terms of corruptibility) when put into practice. What we really should be trying to show is how capitalism may be similar in terms of "corruptability".

We need a new system, really. Democracy has a neat element of freedom to it that ensures a lot of securities, but the majority can be easily fooled and capitalism allows lobbying to manufacture "common sense" with $$$.
 
  • #69
jacksonpeeble said:
I agree; I don't see the big deal about socialism. People in general seem to have this absurd fear of communism and socialism, probably since McCarthy. Even the teachers in my high school seemed to teach us that we should fear them.

You don't seem to understand. When the reds get their way like they will now that obama's in power 90% of America will turn gay, people will start eating babies, and apple pie will be outlawed.

Not a world I want to live in. So tell me: do you now or have you ever had any affiliations with the communist party?
 
  • #70
Pythagorean said:
They're good theories, but they've been shown to have flaws (in terms of corruptibility) when put into practice.

By whom?

I never liked mine history class. I remember reading a poem about how winners write the history.
 
  • #71
jacksonpeeble said:
I agree; I don't see the big deal about socialism. People in general seem to have this absurd fear of communism and socialism, probably since McCarthy. Even the teachers in my high school seemed to teach us that we should fear them.

The ideal communist state has never been achieved. Rather it has always ended up closer to some pseudo-social-communism.

Given that, communism applied in the real world has always lent itself to virtual despotism within 5 years of being implemented.
 
  • #72
rootX said:
By whom?

Stalin...

Mao...

Pol Pot...
 
  • #73
When machines and robots take over from us, we'll need a communist plan economy. If the production of all goods is 100% automized including the building of factories then the whole system can grow out of control if it isn't regulated.
 
  • #74
I double clicked the button and it didnt go to FM, help!

I had to listen to Dennis Miller on the way to the supermarket just now. He's another racist. He was talking about how the guy in the treasury should be replaced with a Korean Grocery because there good at 'adding up the columns', and that he would have a cool name like ching-chong.

Oh, BTW. These clowns are all on "THE FREEDOM CHANNEL". :smile:
 
  • #76
Cyrus said:
I'm a man. I don't need no stinking 'users manual'.

Cyrus said:
I double clicked the button and it didnt go to FM, help!

Seriously, do you still have the manual or not?

Or, if you can do an online search and find it online, post the link. Someone else can look up how to get back to FM, and your manliness will still be intact ... as will theirs, since they're not using the manual to solve any of their own problems :biggrin:
 
  • #77
Cyrus said:
I double clicked the button and it didnt go to FM, help!
...
I had to listen to Dennis Miller on the way to the supermarket just now. He's another racist. He was talking about how the guy in the treasury should be replaced with a Korean Grocery because there good at 'adding up the columns', and that he would have a cool name like ching-chong.
...

You realize that Miller is/was a comedian.
 
  • #78
Count Iblis said:
America should be split into a conservative part and a liberal part. You don't need to have a territorial separation, just issue two nationalities. You then have two presidents, two Supreme Courts, two armies etc. etc.

It is tough enough having a family that is split. I asked my sister-in-law why she listens to hate radio. She replied: "Because they always tell the truth." She also still thinks Iraq's WMDs were sent to Syria.

Then she goes on a tirade about how Jimmy Carter is totally to blame for the economic crisis.:eek:

Family occasions are pure hell.
 
  • #79
seycyrus said:
You realize that Miller is/was a comedian.

And Limbaugh claims to be an entertainer.
 
  • #80
seycyrus said:
Stalin...

Mao...

Pol Pot...

I remember reading a poem about how winners write the history.

I wasn't saying that it's free of flaws.
 
  • #81
Redbelly98 said:
Or, if you can do an online search and find it online, post the link. Someone else can look up how to get back to FM, and your manliness will still be intact ... as will theirs, since they're not using the manual to solve any of their own problems :biggrin:

I was also going to say that. It should be easier to get the model or other information enough to google out the manual
 
  • #82
edward said:
It is tough enough having a family that is split. I asked my sister-in-law why she listens to hate radio. She replied: "Because they always tell the truth." She also still thinks Iraq's WMDs were sent to Syria.

Then she goes on a tirade about how Jimmy Carter is totally to blame for the economic crisis.:eek:

Family occasions are pure hell.

In today's world you have many people with one nationality living in some other country. The fact that so many things can be done remotely via the electronic media means that the place where you actually live is becoming much less relevant.

Creating a new nationality in the US can be done relatively easily in the near future. If you have a virtual Congress and Senate, the actual buildings being historical relics, then all that needs to be done is to create official websites for the new conservative senate, congress, supreme court, White House, etc. etc.

If Palin is elected president of the conservative Republic, she can stay in Alaska and log on to the conservative White House from there.

If you are registered as a conservative American, your taxes go to the conservative government.
 
  • #83
seycyrus said:
You realize that Miller is/was a comedian.

There is a line between funny and racist. He isn't funny, nor was what he was saying a joke.
 
  • #84
Cyrus said:
There is a line between funny and racist.
I disagree. There is a great deal of overlap. May be sad, but that's the truth of it.
 
  • #85
DaveC426913 said:
I disagree. There is a great deal of overlap. May be sad, but that's the truth of it.

No, I like racial jokes. I really like racial jokes. But I like them when they are told by someone who is funny: like, Russel Peters.

A joke is funny because of the way you say it. The way he was talking about the treasury being run by a korean grocery store owner wasnt funny. It was said as a statement, not in the form of a joke. The way he said it was flat out racist.
 
  • #86
Cyrus said:
The way he was talking about the treasury being run by a korean grocery store owner wasnt funny. It was said as a statement, not in the form of a joke. The way he said it was flat out racist.
It is deliberate. They're called shock jocks for a reason. Their intent is to inflame, not to be factual. This generates calls. Same thing with many newspaper editors. You don't get eyes (and ears) by espousing reasonable, rational viewpoints.
 
  • #87
seycyrus said:
Yes, it is quite surprising that people who listen to conservative radio programs might support a conservative president...

I'm sending in my nomination for a Nobel Prize!

If you are done being a smart ***, then consider that these idiots may have changed the course of history.

Do people listen because they are so-called conservatives, or have they been brain washed by the endless barrage of lies? Beyond that, how many Bush supporters listen to hate radio? That was the point that obviously eluded you. I am guessing that it is most of them, which is anecdotally supported by the numbers.

I have seen people changed by hate radio. In fact, I believe that it is in large part responsible for the polarization that we've seen in this country over the last ten years. To put it bluntly, they are helping to destroy the nation.

The only good to come of it is that they may have destroyed the Republican party - not to mention that in a way, Limbaugh helped to make Obama possible. And even now, they rant against doing anything to salvage the economy when they have been the cheerleaders for the path to destruction. I liked what Sam Donalson said about this. He pointed out that Republicans almost unanimously opposed Roosevelt and The New Deal. Fifty years later, the Republicans finally came back to power in Congress.
 
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  • #88
Ivan Seeking said:
I have seen people changed by hate radio. In fact, I believe that it is in large part responsible for the polarization that we've seen in this country over the last ten years. To put it bluntly, they are helping to destroy the nation.

I was also thinking about this recently. If these guys (including liberals) are serving their own ideologies or national interests.

IMO, all they care about is their own ideologies - they really don't care about where the nation is going.
 
  • #89
rootX said:
I was also thinking about this recently. If these guys (including liberals) are serving their own ideologies or national interests.

IMO, all they care about is their own ideologies - they really don't care about where the nation is going.

Funny how we never see liberal hate radio. If there was such a thing, I would be against it as well.

But I agree. They only care about their ideology and ratings; not what's best for the country.

I was a die-hard puritan free-market guy until I realized that it is a failed concept. I have changed my views because obviously Reagan [Stockman] was wrong.
 
  • #90
Btw, I lost one of my oldest friends to hate radio. The guy is absolutely intolerable now. I have another friend who complains about the same thing in regards to an old friend of his. Every time he visits I get an earful about what so and so is saying now.
 
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