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The discussion revolves around the integral \(\int\sqrt{x^2+9}dx\), with participants exploring various approaches to simplify and solve it. The subject area includes integration techniques and trigonometric substitutions.

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  • The original poster attempts to transform the integral into a trigonometric form, specifically \(3\int\sec^3\theta d\theta\), and expresses uncertainty about the next steps. Some participants suggest different substitutions, such as \(x=3\sinh t\) and \(x=3\tan(t)\), while others discuss converting secant to cosine and using partial fractions.

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Participants are actively sharing their thought processes and methods for tackling the integral. Several approaches are being explored, including integration by parts and trigonometric substitutions. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Some participants express frustration with the complexity of the integral, indicating that it may not be straightforward. The discussion reflects a range of strategies and interpretations regarding the integral's setup and potential methods for solving it.

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I'm in the middle of solving \int\sqrt{x^2+9}dx and I got it into the form of 3\int\sec^3\theta d\theta, and I'm pulling a blank. Where does one begin? I could integrate by parts, setting u=sec(theta) and dv=sec^2(theta), but it's not getting me very far. Any suggestions?
 
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bummer. i had that and decided it didn't look appealing...

OK, how's this?

3\int\sec^3\theta d\theta

=3(\sec\theta\tan\theta-\int\tan^2\theta\sec\theta d\theta)

=3(\sec\theta\tan\theta-\int\frac{sin^2\theta}{cos^3\theta}d\theta)

=3(\sec\theta\tan\theta-\int\frac{1+\cos^2\theta}{cos^3\theta}d\theta)

=3(\sec\theta\tan\theta-\int\frac{1+\cos^2\theta}{cos^3\theta}d\theta)

=3(\sec\theta\tan\theta-\int\sec^3\theta d\theta +\int\sec\theta d\theta)

Let I=\int\sec^3\theta d\theta

Then 3I=3(\sec\theta\tan\theta-\int\sec^3\theta d\theta +\int\sec\theta d\theta)

The 3's cancel, so I+I=(\sec\theta\tan\theta+\int\sec\theta d\theta)

so I=(\sec\theta\tan\theta+\int\sec\theta d\theta) and I can evaluate it from there (I hope).

Thank you very much!

Where did your post go, Courtigrad? I used it!
 
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Try the substitution x=3\sinh t.

Daniel.
 
Here's how I would almost automatically do an integral like that. First convert secant to cosine
\int sec^3 x dx= \int \frac{1}{cos^3(x)}dx[/itex]<br /> which is an odd power of cosine. &quot;Take out&quot; a cos(x) to use with dx. That is, multiply both numerator and denominator by cos(x)<br /> \int \frac{cos (x)}{cos^4(x)}dx= \int \frac{cos(x)dx}{(1- sin^2(x))^2}<br /> Now let u= sin(x) so du= cos(x)dx<br /> \int \frac{du}{(1- u^2)^2}= \int \frac{du}{(1-u)^2(1+u)^2}<br /> and now use partial fractions.
 
Here's how I integrated the \int sec^3(x)dx term.

\int sec^3(x)dx
=\int sec^2(x)sec(x)

u = sec(x)
du = sec(x)tan(x) dx

dv = sec(x)^2(x)dx
v = tan(x)\int sec^3(x)dx
= sec(x)tan(x) - \int tan(x)sec(x)tan(x) dx
= sec(x)tan(x) - \int tan^2(x)sec(x) dx
= sec(x)tan(x) - \int (sec^2(x) - 1)sec(x) dx
= sec(x)tan(x) - \int (sec^3(x) - sec(x) dx
= sec(x)tan(x) - \int (sec^3(x) + \int sec(x) dx

Now we have \int sec^3(x) on both sides, so consolidate them.

2 \int sec^3(x) dx = sec(x)tan(x) + \int sec(x) dx
2 \int sec^3(x) dx = sec(x)tan(x) + ln|sec(x) + tan(x)| + K
\int sec^3(x) dx = {{sec(x)tan(x) + ln|sec(x) + tan(x)|}\over{2}} + CHow did I get
\int sec(x) dx = ln|sec(x) + tan(x)|?

Well, simplify this integral:

\int sec(x) dx = \int sec(x)*{{sec(x)+tan(x)}\over{sec(x)+tan(x)}}
 
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i would have used the substitution x = 3 tan(t)
 

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