Stuck on Relativity Implications and LQG Images?

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The discussion focuses on a student's project for a History Day board related to physics, specifically seeking real-life implications of relativity and suggestions for a picture representing Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG). Participants highlight that GPS technology relies on principles of special relativity, as satellite clocks must account for time dilation to ensure accurate positioning. They also mention that general relativity is crucial for the success of space missions like the Mars Rovers and the Cassini probe. The student currently has a psychedelic image representing a spin network for LQG but is looking for additional visual ideas. The conversation emphasizes the practical applications of relativity in modern technology and space exploration.
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Hey,
I am in the process of redoing a History Day board for the state competition. Of coarse, I did mine on physics. I have a problem though. I'm stuck on 2 things.

1) A real life implication of something to do with Relativity (special of general).

2) Another picture I could put for LQG. Any ideas would be splended.


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1) From what I've heard, the GPS navigating system wouldn't work if it had been based solely on Newtonian mechanics.
I'm not sure about this, though; it might be worth checking out nonetheless.
 
1) Correct, GPS would not work without the clocks in the sattelites being built to run a little "fast". The speed of the moving sattelite means that time slows down for it, andf the clocks run at "normal" speed. At the speeds they go, if the sattelite's clock was off by just a fraction of a second, it would calculate its own position to be miles from where it actually was. That's special relativity. Without GR's more acurate predictions of gravity (and therefore orbital dynamics), The Mars Rovers, the Cassini rpobe to Saturn, and all our exploratory craft would go off course and miss there targets.

2) What is your current picture?
 
LURCH said: 1) Correct, GPS would not work without the clocks in the sattelites being built to run a little "fast". The speed of the moving sattelite means that time slows down for it, andf the clocks run at "normal" speed. At the speeds they go, if the sattelite's clock was off by just a fraction of a second, it would calculate its own position to be miles from where it actually was. That's special relativity. Without GR's more acurate predictions of gravity (and therefore orbital dynamics), The Mars Rovers, the Cassini rpobe to Saturn, and all our exploratory craft would go off course and miss there targets.
arildno said:1) From what I've heard, the GPS navigating system wouldn't work if it had been based solely on Newtonian mechanics.
Thanks guys, that works great.
LURCH said:2) What is your current picture?
I have a picture of a tv (photoelectric cells) and rubber gloves (more particle physics than relativity.

What you guys said helps a lot. That's what I will use. Thanks.

Still open to comments on LQG implications.

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LOL! no, no, no; I meant this;

PRodQuanta said:
Hey,


2) Another picture I could put for LQG. Any ideas would be splended.


Paden Roder

What is your current picture? :biggrin:
 
LURCH said:What is your current picture?
Sorry, my current picture consist of something that portrays a spin network. Really, it's just a psychedelic picture of space. That's why I'm open to suggestions.

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