SU(N) symmetry in harmonic oscillator

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The discussion revolves around the representation theory of SU(N) symmetry in the context of a D-dimensional harmonic oscillator. Participants explore the labeling and dimensions of SU(D) vector representations, comparing them to known cases such as SU(2) and SU(3), and investigate the implications of these representations on the states of the harmonic oscillator.

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  • One participant discusses the construction of conserved charges for the D-dimensional harmonic oscillator and their relation to SU(D) representations.
  • Another participant examines specific cases of SU(2) and SU(3), noting the peculiarities in the representation labeling and dimensions, particularly the inclusion of half-integer representations for SU(2).
  • A third participant references a book for a general theory of unitary representations of SU(n) and mentions a thorough investigation of the 3-dimensional isotropic oscillator from a group theoretical perspective.
  • One participant describes the problem of populating N cells with bosons and how the states are labeled by occupation numbers, indicating that the representation of SU(N) is the symmetric part of the n-fold tensor product.

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Participants express differing views on how to label and count the dimensions of SU(D) representations, particularly in the cases of SU(2) and SU(3). There is no consensus on the arrangement of representations or the counting methods, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

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Participants highlight the complexity of representation theory, including the need to consider half-integer representations and the reducibility of certain representations. There are also references to specific literature that may provide additional context or frameworks for understanding the discussed concepts.

tom.stoer
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Starting with the D-dim. harmonic oscillator and generators of SU(D)

T^a;\quad [T^a,T^b] = if^{abc}T^c

one can construct conserved charges

Q^a = a^\dagger_i\,(T^a)_{ik}\,a_k;\quad [Q^a,Q^b] = if^{abc}Q^c

satisfying the same algebra and commuting with the Hamiltonian

H = a^\dagger_i\,1_{ik}\,a_k + \frac{N}{2} = \sum_{i=1}^D a^\dagger_i a_i + \frac{N}{2};\qquad [H,Q^a] = 0

where I introcuced a new generator for U(1).

That means that the states

|n_1, n_2, \ldots n_N\rangle;\quad \sum_{i=1}^D n_i = N

are related to integer- or vector-representations of SU(D).

The degeneracy for fixed N is calculated as

\text{dim}\,N_D = \left(\array{N+D-1 \\ N}\right)

Questions:
- how are SU(D) vector representations labelled (compared to |lm> for SU(2))
- what are their dimensions (compared to 2l+1 for l-rep. in SU(2))
- and how do the dimensions sum up to dim ND

Thanks
 
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Checking this explicitly for the simplest cases SU(2) and SU(3) it becomes strange already:


SU(2)

N=0: |00> is the trivial 1-rep. of SU(2)

N=1: |10>, |01> is the 2-rep. of SU(2); but this is a spinor rep. with l = 1/2 and 2l+1 = 2

N=2: |20>, |11>, |02> is the 3-rep. of SU(2)


SU(3)

N=0: |000> is the trivial 1-rep. of SU(3)

N=1: |100>, |010>, |001> is a 3-rep. of SU(3); again this is not a vector rep.; and I know there are two 3-reps, 3 and 3*

N=2: |200>, ... |110>, ... is a 6-dim. rep. of SU(3) which seems to be a sum of the two 3-reps 6 = 3 + 3*, correct?

N=3: here I find dim 33 = 10; now this can either be the 10-dim. irreducible rep., or just 1+3+6


So my first conclusion from SU(2) is that I have to include half-integer reps as well; this is strange, but OK. But for SU(3) it's unclear how to arrange rep's and how to count them.
 
Tom, the general theory of unitary representations of SU(n) is developed in Chapter 13 of Wu Ki Tung's Group Theory book and is derivable from the general theory of representations of GL(n) as it's done in the book.

For the 3-dim isotropic oscillator a thorough investigation from a group theoretical perspective is made by Wybourne in his book in Chapter 20.
 
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This is equivalent to the problem of populating N cells with bosons. The states are labeled by the occupation numbers n1, n2,... nN where n = ∑ ni. The representation of SU(N) is the symmetric part of the n-fold tensor product (N ⊗ N ⊗ ... ⊗ N)sym, a reducible representation.
 

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