Surface gravity as a function of luminosity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between surface gravity and luminosity along the main sequence of stars. Participants explore the implications of this relationship, particularly focusing on the variables involved in the equations for surface gravity and luminosity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for surface gravity, suggesting that it weakens as luminosity increases, but questions whether this interpretation is overly simplistic.
  • Another participant challenges the assumption that all terms in the equation remain constant, indicating that this could be a significant oversight.
  • A different participant asserts that mass (M) should be considered constant, but acknowledges that temperature (T) may vary, which could affect the relationship.
  • One participant disputes the concept of "surface gravity," arguing that gravity should be calculated based on the center of mass rather than a surface value.
  • Another participant expresses concern that the dependence on temperature (T) might be strong enough to alter the initial claim about the relationship between luminosity and surface gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions made regarding the constancy of variables in the equations, particularly concerning temperature and mass. There is no consensus on the validity of the initial claim or the interpretation of surface gravity.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential limitations of their assumptions, particularly regarding the constancy of temperature and the definition of surface gravity. The discussion remains open-ended with unresolved mathematical implications.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying stellar physics, particularly in understanding the relationships between luminosity, temperature, and gravitational concepts in stellar contexts.

Mr. Bond
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I've been using these forums for awhile but this is my first post. So thanks in advance for taking the time to consider this problem. It is much appreciated.

The question is: How does surface gravity vary as a function of luminosity along the main sequence?

By surface gravity, I'm sure the question is asking for [itex]g=\frac{G M}{R^2}[/itex]. Knowing that luminosity is [itex]L=4 \pi R^2\sigma _{\text{SB}} T^4[/itex]. I've solved for R in the luminosity equation and obtained [itex]g=\frac{4 \pi G M T^4 \sigma _{\text{SB}}}{L}[/itex], but I'm pretty sure the problem is supposed to be harder than this. It's obvious (according to this relationship that's probably wrong) that if luminosity increases, then the surface gravity becomes weaker. So am I looking at this problem too simplistically?
 
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You are assuming all the other terms in the expression for g as a function of L remain constant. I am not a student of this subject, but that appears to be a very strong assumption.
 
All of them are constants except for L and possibly T. I'm pretty sure M is a constant because surface gravity is the gravity of the total mass.
 
There is no such thing as surface gravity. Gravity is always calculated based on the center of mass.
 
Mr. Bond said:
All of them are constants except for L and possibly T. I'm pretty sure M is a constant because surface gravity is the gravity of the total mass.

I suspect that the dependence on T is quite strong, weakening your original assertion.
 

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