Tangential acceleration and centripetal acceleration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time when tangential acceleration equals twice centripetal acceleration for a disc with a radius of 16 cm and an angular acceleration of 8.0 rad/s². The tangential acceleration is determined to be 50 m/s², while the centripetal acceleration is initially miscalculated as 2.56 m/s². Participants clarify that the correct formula for centripetal acceleration is v²/r, where v is the tangential velocity. They emphasize the relationship between angular and tangential accelerations, noting that these components are perpendicular to each other. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these formulas to solve the problem effectively.
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a disc or radius r = 16cm starts spinning from rest with a uniform angular acceleration of 8.0 rad/s^2. at what time is its tangential acceleration twice the centripetal acceleration.

i figured out the tangential acceleration is:
Atan = α/R = 8 / .16 = 50 m/s^2

and the centripetal acceleration is :
2(α*R) = 2.56 m/s^2then i got stuck. will the centripetal increase as its tangential acceleration increase?
please help
 
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siapola1 said:
Atan = α/R
Not a good start.
siapola1 said:
2(α*R) = 2.56 m/s^2
That's a better attempt at the tangential acceleration, but not quite right.
Can you find a correct formula for centripetal?
 
haruspex said:
Not a good start.
So can you help me please?
 
siapola1 said:
So can you help me please?
Don't you have any notes or textbook that give you the relationship between angular and tangential accelerations?
What about angular and tangential velocities? Angular and tangential displacements?
 
I wasnt in class that day and homework are usually much harder than lectures.
He gave is us this formula in class

Centripetal acc. = R * (ω4 + α2)
But I don't know how to use it in this problem
 
siapola1 said:
I wasnt in class that day and homework are usually much harder than lectures.
He gave is us this formula in class

Centripetal acc. = R * (ω4 + α2)
But I don't know how to use it in this problem
Oh. That's not helpful at all. In fact it is wrong.
If the angular acceleration is α, radius r, then the tangential acceleration is αr.
Likewise, if a disc is rotated by angle θ then a point on its rim travels an arc length θr, and if rotating at rate ω then the tangential velocity is ωr.
The centripetal acceleration is that component of the total acceleration which is normal to the velocity. For a rotating disc it is pointing towards the disc's centre. Its magnitude is v2/r = rω2.
The centripetal and tangential accelerations are at right angles, so the total acceleration has magnitude √((rω2)2+(αr)2) = r√(ω42).
 
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