Tangential Force in Uniform Circular Motion: Explained

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The discussion revolves around the concept of tangential force in the context of uniform circular motion, specifically addressing its relationship with centripetal force and its role in circular motion dynamics.

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  • Participants explore the definition of tangential force, questioning whether it is a fictitious force and its relationship to centripetal force. There is also a discussion about the conditions under which tangential force is present in circular motion.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the nature of tangential force and its distinction from centripetal force. There is an ongoing exploration of specific examples involving a toy car's motion, with varying interpretations of the forces at play.

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Participants are working with a specific problem involving a toy car moving in circular motion, with details on mass, radius, and speeds provided. There is mention of confusion regarding the calculations of tangential and centripetal forces, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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In Uniform circular motion, the centripetal acceleration is the inward force that keeps a particle on a circular track. My question is what exactly is the tangential force? Is it a fictious force? My first inclination is that is equal in magnitude to the centripetal force but acts perpendicularly (sort of like the normal force). Is this reasoning correct? Someone please let me know, thanks.
 
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destro47 said:
My question is what exactly is the tangential force? Is it a fictious force? My first inclination is that is equal in magnitude to the centripetal force but acts perpendicularly (sort of like the normal force). Is this reasoning correct? Someone please let me know, thanks.
The tangential force is not a ficticous force; however, just because a particle undergoes circular motion doesn't nesscarily mean that there is a tangential force acting. A tangential force is often referred to as a torque and causes angular acceleration, that is an applied torque increases that angular velocity of the rotating body.

See http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/circ.html#rotcon" for more information on rotation concepts.
 
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Then how does it apply to this problem:

A 7.83 kg toy car is going around a circular track of radius 52.5 m at a constant speed of 17.3 m/s. Find:


- the time it takes for the car to go around the track once

- the magnitude of the inward force needed to keep it moving in a circle

b) The same 7.83 kg toy car now starts at rest on the same track, and accelerates at a constant rate to a final speed of 1.93 m/s in 9.02 seconds. At the instant it reaches its final speed, find:

- the magnitude of the inward force needed to keep it moving in a circle:

- the magnitude of the tangetial force:

Part A was really trivial and I got the answers right on the first try. However, the tangential force thing has thrown me for a bit of loop. For the first answer of part B i think 1.68 N is the answer, but after careful review I think its the answer to question II part B. Is the tangential force a component of the inward force? Does anyone have a clue about this one?
 
My intuition was correct. 1.68 N is the measure of the tangential force, calculated using the acceleration of the car over that particular arc length of the circle. 0.55 N is the measure of the centrifical force keeping the toy car on the circle.
 
tnx....
 

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