Tant Cap vs E. Cap: Understand Differences & Applications

  • Thread starter Thread starter victorb
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the differences and applications of tantalum capacitors (tant caps) and electrolytic capacitors (e. caps), particularly in high capacitance and high voltage scenarios. Participants explore reliability, temperature effects, and specific use cases for each type of capacitor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that tant caps are preferred in high ambient temperatures due to their reliability and durability compared to e. caps, which may malfunction if the liquid inside vaporizes.
  • Others mention that certain e. caps are rated for long life and high temperatures, with some capable of operating for over 5,000 hours at 85°C.
  • One participant highlights that tantalum capacitors are smaller due to their thin dielectric layer, allowing for high capacitance in a compact form.
  • Another participant points out that tantalum caps have very low leakage current, sharing a personal experience of using them in timing circuits with satisfactory long-term performance.
  • A question is raised about the availability of tantalum capacitors for high voltage applications, with a suggestion that aluminum capacitors are typically used for voltages over 100V.
  • There is curiosity about niobium capacitors and whether they are available or still considered too new in the market.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reliability and temperature performance of tant caps versus e. caps, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus on the best choice for specific applications.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific conditions such as ambient temperature and voltage ratings, and there are references to datasheets for reliability data that may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics design, particularly those working with capacitors in high temperature or high voltage applications, may find this discussion relevant.

victorb
Messages
12
Reaction score
0
As I know, tant cap and e. cap are also the selection for high capacitance value under high voltage rating's condition. But due to the principle of e. cap, it requires some liquid inisde itself to provide capacitance. So if the circuit's ambient temperature is high, that may vaporize the liquid and cause the e. cap malfunction.

So I was told that use tant cap if the ambient temperature is always high as tant cap can provide higher reliablility and more durable.

But on ther other hand, I also see some e. cap. marked with long life, or high temperature rating, and some of them are also specified it can work for more than 5k hours under maybe 85degC condition. And I also read for about the same reliability data from some tant cap's datasheet. So can anyone kindly tell / teach me the different characteristic between them and how is their applications.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Tantalum caps are smaller.
Because the dielectric layer can be very thin (thinner than the similar layer in, for instance, an aluminium electrolytic capacitor), a high capacitance can be achieved in a small volume.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalum"
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Tantalum caps also have a very low leakage current. I designed and built several timing circuits using the CMOS version of a 555 with 10 meg resistors and tantalum caps. They time out to about 10 minutes. Timing is not real critical, within 15 seconds or so. They have been in service for over 10 years without any trouble.
 
Did you find any tantalum capacitor for high voltage?

The usual choice is aluminium for high voltages (I mean, 100V+).

And I don't remember tantalum capacitors to work well at high temperatures. Aluminium is less bad there - to be checked in datasheets.

What about niobium capacitors? Are they available now, or still too new?
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
17
Views
6K