What is the relationship between tautomers and pka in terms of pH?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between pKa and tautomers. It is mentioned that a base with a pKa of 3.8 is not ideal, as it is more suitable for an acid like acetic acid. Depending on the pH, the amino or imino group may predominate, and the same applies for the keto or enol form. The speaker also expresses confusion with identifying these tautomers and mentions that they may be more relevant in explaining reaction mechanisms.
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in terms of pka and tautomers
if a base has a pka of 3.8
with a ph below and above the pka would the amino or imino group predominate
and with a ph above and below the pka would a keto or enol predominate. I am a little confused figuring them out
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First, a base should have a pKa much higher than 3.8; this better fits an acid like acetic acid whose pKa is around 4.7. If you are above the pKa value, you can expect it to be deprotonated like A; below pKa it is surely protonated as in HA.

I presume that keto-enol or amino-imino tautomerism has nothing to do with pKa much. We sometimes need a special tautomer to explain the reaction types as in mechanisms.
 
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I assume that you mean imino-enamine tautomers. Amines and imines are more like alcohols and ketones.
 
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Related to What is the relationship between tautomers and pka in terms of pH?

1. What are tautomers?

Tautomers are isomers of a molecule that differ in the position of a hydrogen atom and the double bond. They can also be described as different forms of a molecule that can interconvert rapidly.

2. How do tautomers affect pKa values?

Tautomers can affect pKa values because they have different functional groups and atomic arrangements, which can alter the acidity or basicity of a molecule. For example, the keto and enol forms of a molecule can have significantly different pKa values.

3. What is pKa and how is it related to acidity?

pKa is a measure of the strength of an acid in a solution. It is related to acidity because the lower the pKa value, the stronger the acid. A lower pKa means that the acid will more readily donate a proton in a solution.

4. Can tautomers be observed experimentally?

Yes, tautomers can be observed experimentally through techniques such as NMR spectroscopy, where the different forms of a molecule will have distinct peaks. However, some tautomers may be unstable or interconvert too quickly to be observed.

5. How do tautomers impact biological systems?

Tautomers can have significant impacts on biological systems, as they can affect the reactivity, stability, and function of molecules. For example, tautomerization of nucleic acids can lead to mutations, and tautomers of amino acids can alter protein structures and functions.

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