Teardrop loop-de-loop radius function

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the radius of curvature R and the height h of a teardrop loop in order to maintain constant centripetal acceleration. It highlights the importance of correctly accounting for both translational and rotational kinetic energy in the energy conservation equations. The initial attempt at deriving the function R=R(h) was flawed due to misinterpretation of the energy components, particularly the treatment of rotational kinetic energy. The correct approach emphasizes that translational and rotational kinetic energies are distinct and should not be equated without proper context. Ultimately, the solution requires careful consideration of both forms of kinetic energy to accurately express R as a function of h.
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Homework Statement


To avoid this stress, vertical loops are teardrop-shaped rather than circular, designed so that the centripetal acceleration is constant all around the loop. How must the radius of curvature R change as the car's height h above the ground increases in order to have this constant centripetal acceleration? Express your answer as a function: R=R(h).

Given variables:
Initial radius R0
Initial velocity v0

Homework Equations


a_c = v2/r

v = r*ω

ΔPE = -ΔKErotational -ΔKEtranslational

The Attempt at a Solution


ΔPE = mgh
-ΔKEtranslational = (1/2)m(v02 - vf2)
-ΔKErotational = (1/2)m(r02ω02 - rf2ωf2)

if v=r*ω, then unless I'm mistaken, ΔKErotational = ΔKEtranslational (substitution), and therefore:

mgh = m(v02 - vf2)

Mass cancels out. Since centripetal acceleration is constant, I know that a_c initial = a_c final, therefore:

vf2 = (v02*rf)/r0

Substituting this back into the energy equation and then doing algebra,

rf = r0((v02 - gh)/v02)

This is incorrect, and I can't figure out where I've gone wrong?
 
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You are doing a really "weird" mistake, you consider the same energy two times. The car has rotational kinetic energy which in this case is the "same" as its translational kinetic energy. When I say "same" I mean its the same thing (and not two different things but equal). So in your equation of energy you should keep the factor of 1/2, that is ##mgh=\frac{1}{2}m(v_0^2-v_f^2)##.

The rotational kinetic energy is "different thing" and not equal to the translational kinetic energy in the case we have a wheel that is rolling with translational velocity ##v## and has rotational velocity ##\omega## around its center and the additional equation ##v=\omega R## holds (that is the condition of rolling without sliding, R the radius of wheel). In this case the total kinetic energy of the wheel is ##\frac{1}{2}I\omega^2+\frac{1}{2}mv^2## where I the moment of inertia of the wheel.
 
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