Circular motion , the loop the loop

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a loop-the-loop scenario in circular motion, specifically focusing on determining the minimum speed required for a cart to successfully complete the loop and the speed at the top of the loop. The radius of the loop is given as 18 meters.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss equating weight and centripetal force to find the minimum speed, with one participant noting a discrepancy between their calculated answer and the expected result. There is also mention of using energy equations to find the speed at the top of the loop.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding which part of the loop the speeds refer to. There is an acknowledgment of a solved part of the problem, but no consensus on the approach to the remaining parts.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of their calculations and the definitions of terms related to circular motion and energy conservation. There is a suggestion to solve one part of the problem before addressing another, indicating a potential strategy for tackling the homework.

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Homework Statement


The loop-the-loop machine has radius R of 18m
(a) What is the minimum speed at which a cart must travel so that it will safety loop the loop
(b) what will the speed at the top be in this case

Homework Equations


Centipetal force = m*v^2/r
Kinetic and potential energies = (1/2) m*v^2 and mgh respectively

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) equating weight and centripetal force and then solving for v I got an answer for velocity of 13.2 but the actual answer is 30
(b) based on (a) calculate the velocity using energy equations
(1/2)m×v^2 = mgh + (1/2) m×v^2
 
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NihalRi said:
(a) equating weight and centripetal force and then solving for v I got an answer for velocity of 13.2 but the actual answer is 30
I believe (a) is asking for the speed at the bottom. (Solve (b) first.)
 
Doc Al said:
I believe (a) is asking for the speed at the bottom. (Solve (b) first.)
I get what it's asking just not how to get the answer
 
You solved part (b).
 

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