Tension of wire attached to 45-kg ball.

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The discussion centers on calculating the tension in a wire supporting a 45-kg ball against a vertical wall. The user initially miscalculated the angle and the height in their free body diagram, leading to an incorrect tension value of 521.8 N, while the correct answer is 470 N. After reviewing the geometry, it was determined that the wire's length should account for the entire radius of the ball, not just the distance from the top to the center. This correction allowed the user to arrive at the accurate solution. The importance of careful geometric analysis in physics problems is emphasized.
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Homework Statement


"A solid uniform 45-kg ball of diameter 32cm is supported against a verticle frictionless wall using a thin 30cm wire of negligible mass.

A)Make a free body diagram for the ball and use it to find the tension in the wire.
B)How hard does the ball push against the wall?[/B]

Homework Equations


##\sum(Fx) = 0##
##\sum(Fy) = 0##
##a^2 + b^2 = c^2##
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


k7Npvhc.jpg

There is a picture of the situation.Here is another picture of my free body diagram.
WJJzm9A.jpg


Now, using the equilibrium equations, I got ##\sum(Fy) = -441.45 + TSinθ = 0##
So, ##Tsinθ = 441.45## (Newtons).

Now for the x components.
##\sum(Fx) = Tcosθ - N = 0##

So, ##Tcosθ = N##

Now I need to figure out what the angle is. The diameter of the sphere is 32cm, so the radius must be 16cm. The length of the wire is 30cm. I used the pythagorean theorem to find the height from the sphere to the wire.

##16^2 + b^2 = 30^2##
##256 + b^2 = 900##
##b^2 = 644##
##b = 25.38##

Now ##\arcsin(25.38/30) = 57.78 degrees##

This is where I start to have trouble. I figured I would find T by plugging that angle into ##Tsinθ = 441.45## and solving for T. This gave me an answer of 521.8 N. When I check the back of the book, the answer is actually 470 Newtons.

Any help?
 
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BlueQuark said:

Homework Statement


"A solid uniform 45-kg ball of diameter 32cm is supported against a verticle frictionless wall using a thin 30cm wire of negligible mass.

A)Make a free body diagram for the ball and use it to find the tension in the wire.
B)How hard does the ball push against the wall?[/B]

Homework Equations


##\sum(Fx) = 0##
##\sum(Fy) = 0##
##a^2 + b^2 = c^2##
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


k7Npvhc.jpg

There is a picture of the situation.Here is another picture of my free body diagram.
WJJzm9A.jpg


Now, using the equilibrium equations, I got ##\sum(Fy) = -441.45 + TSinθ = 0##
So, ##Tsinθ = 441.45## (Newtons).

Now for the x components.
##\sum(Fx) = Tcosθ - N = 0##

So, ##Tcosθ = N##

So far, so good.
Now I need to figure out what the angle is. The diameter of the sphere is 32cm, so the radius must be 16cm. The length of the wire is 30cm. I used the pythagorean theorem to find the height from the sphere to the wire.

##16^2 + b^2 = 30^2##
##256 + b^2 = 900##
##b^2 = 644##
##b = 25.38##

Now ##\arcsin(25.38/30) = 57.78 degrees##

This is where everything comes apart.

You should make a detailed sketch of the triangle you are trying to solve. Even looking at the picture from the book should give you a hint that your first equation,
##16^2 + b^2 = 30^2##
is wrong.

Take another close look at the geometry of the sphere and see if you can't come up with a different (and correct) relationship.
 
SteamKing said:
So far, so good.This is where everything comes apart.

You should make a detailed sketch of the triangle you are trying to solve. Even looking at the picture from the book should give you a hint that your first equation,
##16^2 + b^2 = 30^2##
is wrong.

Take another close look at the geometry of the sphere and see if you can't come up with a different (and correct) relationship.

Okay, I looked and found the mistake. The 30 cm hypotenuse only went from the top to the center of the ball. I should have added an extra 16 cm to it to go through the entire sphere. I got the right answer. Thank you for your help!
 
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