Testing Spring Force in Machine Movement

In summary, the conversation is about testing springs using a machine. The spring is placed between two points and an s-type loadcell is attached to the top point to gather force data. The initial size of the spring is 150 mm and it is stretched to 189 mm for the experiment. An eccentric attached to a 5 kw servo motor is used to stretch the spring to 206 mm. Force data is continuously collected and written to an excel file, with the servo motor able to rotate the eccentric 30 times per second. The initial tension for the spring is 40 and the spring constant is 8. However, when the servo motor starts running, the data collected does not match the expected results according to Hooke's law.
  • #1
karter
1
0
Hi,

We have been trying to make a machine that tests springs. ( a simple drawing is attached )
We place the spring between two points. The top point has an s-type loadcell attached to get the force data.
The initial size of the spring is 150 mm's. (L0 size)
For the experiment we stretch the spring to 189 mm's and call it L1.
We have an eccentric that is attached to a 5 kw servo motor. It moves the spring up and down 17 mm's each time it rotates.When it rotates the spring is stretched to 206 mm's. (L2)

We continuously get Force data for each rotation. and write it to an excel file.The servo can turn the eccentric 30 times a second.

We have an initial tension (for the aforementioned spring it is 40) and the spring constant is 8.

So according to Hooke's law,

F = IT+k*x we get F = 40+39*8 = 352 N for L1 and for L2 F= 40+56*8 = 488 N I get these results when the machine is not moving.

The problem starts when the servo motor starts running. The servo should run between (1 hz (60 rpm) and 30 hz(1800 rpm)). I can stretch and release the spring 30 times a second. The data we get is not what we expect according to Hooke's law. As the hertz increase the value of F(L2)-F(L1) is getting bigger.

What may be the problem? Is Hooke's law enough for constantly moving springs? Any other forces that may effect the outcome that i overlook?

Thanks in advance.
 

Attachments

  • ornekMakine.png
    ornekMakine.png
    4.3 KB · Views: 503
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Real springs are NOT massless.
 

1. How do you measure spring force in a machine movement?

To measure spring force, you will need a spring scale or a force gauge. Place the scale between the two points where the spring is attached and pull or push the scale to measure the force. This will give you the amount of force exerted by the spring.

2. What factors can affect the spring force in a machine movement?

The spring force in a machine movement can be affected by various factors such as the type of spring used, the material of the spring, the length and diameter of the spring, and the amount of compression or tension applied to the spring.

3. How does the spring force affect the movement of a machine?

The spring force plays a critical role in the movement of a machine. It provides the necessary energy for the machine to move and also helps to control and regulate the movement. The force exerted by the spring can also determine the speed and direction of the machine's movement.

4. Can the spring force in a machine movement be adjusted?

Yes, the spring force in a machine movement can be adjusted by changing the parameters of the spring such as its length, diameter, and amount of compression or tension. This can be done by adding or removing coils, changing the thickness of the spring, or adjusting the position of the attachment points.

5. What are some common methods used to test spring force in machine movement?

Some common methods used to test spring force in machine movement include using a spring scale or force gauge, conducting a load-deflection test, and using mathematical equations to calculate the spring force based on its properties and the amount of deflection. Other methods may include strain gauge measurements or simulation software.

Similar threads

Replies
15
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
22
Views
487
  • Mechanical Engineering
Replies
1
Views
726
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
6
Views
823
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
16
Views
813
Replies
4
Views
2K
Back
Top