The angle between two horizontal forces?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle between two horizontal forces, specifically F1 and F2, with F1 directed negatively along the x-axis and F2 at an angle of 39.9 degrees from the positive x-axis. The initial calculations led to confusion about the correct angle, with attempts yielding 219.9 and 140.1 degrees, both of which were incorrect. Clarification was provided that the angle between the forces should be calculated as 180 - 39.9, resulting in 140.1 degrees. Ultimately, the correct answer was confirmed as 140 degrees, resolving the user's confusion about the setup of the equations and the angle measurement. Understanding the relationship between the forces helped improve the user's grasp of the problem.
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I need help with this problem (my work is at the bottom):

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Here is what I tried:

a_x from graph = 3 m/s^2

Fnetx = m* a_x

F_n_e_t_x = 3.9 N

F_n_e_t_x = -3 + F_2*\cos(\theta)

6.9 = 9.0*\cos(\theta)

\cos(\theta) = 0.7667
\theta = 39.9 degrees from x-axis
degrees between forces = 180+39.9 = 219.9 degrees

This is wrong and I've been trying to figure out what to do for a long time so I'm hoping someone can help me out please? :confused: Thanks
 
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Typically you use the smaller angle between two things. Have you tried that?
 
zcm5000 said:
degrees between forces = 180+39.9 = 219.9 degrees

This is wrong and I've been trying to figure out what to do for a long time so I'm hoping someone can help me out please? :confused: Thanks

If the force F1 points in the negative x direction, and F2 has an angle of 39.9 with the positive x direction, then the angle between them is 90 + (90 - 39.9) = 180 - 39.9 = 140.1 degree, unless I missed something.
 
radou said:
If the force F1 points in the negative x direction, and F2 has an angle of 39.9 with the positive x direction, then the angle between them is 90 + (90 - 39.9) = 180 - 39.9 = 140.1 degree, unless I missed something.

Yes, I believe that is right. However, I tried inputting 140 and it is incorrect. I am unsure if F_1 is actually going at 180 degrees. It only says it is going in the negative x direction? Also, I am unsure if I am setting up the equation correctly, and also if I am supposed to use F_2\cos(\theta).

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
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zcm5000 said:
Yes, I believe that is right. However, I am unsure if F_1 is actually going at 180 degrees. It only says it is going in the negative x direction? Also, I am unsure if I am setting up the equation correctly, and also if I am supposed to use F_2\cos(\theta).

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Using F_{2} \cos(\theta) is correct, since \vec{F}_{2} makes some angle \theta with the x axis. Further on, \vec{F}_{1} is not 'going' at 180 degrees. It is a simple calculation of the angle between the two force vectors, and 180 arises in it.
 
radou said:
Using F_{2} \cos(\theta) is correct, since \vec{F}_{2} makes some angle \theta with the x axis. Further on, \vec{F}_{1} is not 'going' at 180 degrees. It is a simple calculation of the angle between the two force vectors, and 180 arises in it.

Well I am not sure what I did wrong because neither 140 or 220 degrees is correct. Is the equation supposed to be F_n_e_t_x = -F_1 + F_2\cos(\theta)? Hopefully someone can show me where I went wrong
 
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I also get that the angle between them is 140.06 degrees.
 
Thanks guys, the answer WAS 140 degrees :smile: . I thought I had tried that answer before I tried 220, but I only tried 220 Thanks for making my physics experience a little better :rolleyes:

At least I understand why I got that answer now
 
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