The last step of this Green's function proof is not clear

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In QFTftGA, Lancaster and Blundell show in a (1+1) dimensional spacetime that the function ##G^+## is a Green's function for the Schrodinger equation. I need the last step of this derivation to be clarified.
Here is the conclusion of the derivation in question:

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where ##\phi_n## are eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian.

I don't see how at the very end the ##\sum ...## becomes ##\delta (x-y)##. What do I miss?
 
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P.S. I thought of a way, but not sure in it:

1. For ##t_x-t_y \neq 0##, the expression vanishes because of the ##\delta (t_x-t_y)## in front.
2. For ##t_x-t_y = 0##,
##\sum_n \phi_n(x) \phi_n^*(y)=\sum_n \langle x| n\rangle \langle n|y \rangle = \langle x|y \rangle = \delta(x-y)##

I am not sure because the eigenstates ##|n \rangle## in the two brackets are at different times.
 
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Hill said:
the eigenstates |n⟩ in the two brackets are at different times
Oh, sorry, they are not, in the case 2.
Solved.
Forget about it :smile: .
 
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For future reference: Hit the identity with a wavefunction f(y) and integrate over y. The integral gives a factor
</phi_n | f> giving the expansion of f(x) in the {/phi_n} basis. This is exactly what a delta function would do.

(On the phone so no fancy tex code)

Weird that the authors don't explain these steps in a book for "amateurs".
 
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haushofer said:
For future reference: Hit the identity with a wavefunction f(y) and integrate over y. The integral gives a factor
</phi_n | f> giving the expansion of f(x) in the {/phi_n} basis. This is exactly what a delta function would do.
I'm sorry, could you elaborate, please? I did not understand it in words.
 
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We start from the sum ##\sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y)## where the ##\phi_n (x)## form an orthonormal basis. Hit this expression with a function f(y) and integrate over y:

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy##

Now use that

##\int \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = <\phi_n | f> = c_n## ("Fourier's trick)

such that

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = \sum_n c_n \phi_n (x) ##

This is just the expansion of ##f(x)##, so indeed

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = f(x)##

With other words:

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = \int \delta (x-y)f(y)dy##

So under the integral sign we have the equality

##\sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) = \delta(x-y)##

:)
 
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haushofer said:
We start from the sum ##\sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y)## where the ##\phi_n (x)## form an orthonormal basis. Hit this expression with a function f(y) and integrate over y:

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy##

Now use that

##\int \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = <\phi_n | f> = c_n## ("Fourier's trick)

such that

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = \sum_n c_n \phi_n (x) ##

This is just the expansion of ##f(x)##, so indeed

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = f(x)##

With other words:

##\int \sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) f(y)dy = \int \delta (x-y)f(y)dy##

So under the integral sign we have the equality

##\sum_n \phi_n (x) \phi^*_n (y) = \delta(x-y)##

:)
Thank you!
 
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Hill said:
TL;DR Summary: In QFTftGA, Lancaster and Blundell show in a (1+1) dimensional spacetime that the function ##G^+## is a Green's function for the Schrodinger equation. I need the last step of this derivation to be clarified.

Here is the conclusion of the derivation in question:

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where ##\phi_n## are eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian.

I don't see how at the very end the ##\sum ...## becomes ##\delta (x-y)##. What do I miss?
Because of the factor ##\delta(t_x-t_y)## you can set ##t_x=t_y## in the rest of the expression on the right-hand side. This leads to
$$\sum_n \phi_n(x) \phi_n^*(y)=\sum_n \langle x|\phi_n \rangle \langle \phi_n |y\rangle = \langle x|y \rangle= \delta(x-y),$$
where I made use of the completeness of the energy eigenstates,
$$\sum_n |\phi_n \rangle \langle \phi_n=\hat{1},$$
and the normalization of the (generalized) position eigenvectors "to a ##\delta## distribution".
 
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