The Latex Companion 1st edition

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the usability of the 1st edition of The LaTeX Companion for learning LaTeX, particularly in light of its age and the evolution of LaTeX over the years. Participants share their experiences with LaTeX, including challenges with BibTeX and alternative resources for learning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relevance of the 1st edition of The LaTeX Companion, noting its age and seeking opinions on its continued usability.
  • Another participant finds Lamport's 1986 manual still useful for basic LaTeX, despite acknowledging some annoying changes in LaTeX.
  • A different participant suggests using "A (not so) short introduction to LaTeX" as an alternative resource.
  • One participant expresses frustration with The LaTeX Companion, recommending online resources instead.
  • Another participant mentions "A Guide to LaTeX" by Kopka and Daly as a preferred resource, highlighting its comprehensive coverage including BibTeX.
  • A comment is made regarding the tone of Oetiker's writing, suggesting it may be off-putting for some readers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the usability of The LaTeX Companion, with some finding it useful and others recommending alternative resources. There is no consensus on the best approach to learning LaTeX or the effectiveness of the 1st edition.

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Some participants note the challenges with BibTeX and the varying experiences with different LaTeX resources, indicating that personal preferences and learning styles may influence their recommendations.

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Can someone tell me if the 1st edition of The Latex Companion is pretty much still usable in terms of learning the details of using latex? It's 17 years old and I know this is probably something that isn't constantly changing but I'd just like to get everyones opinions.

I tried using bibtex for my references in a paper I'm writing and woo, what a disaster that was. Lucky to get out of that with my head still on. KTHX!
 
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I still find Lamport's 1986 manual useful for me. The changes and tweaks in Latex are annoying, but Lamport still helps with the basics.
I don't use Bibtex, but have no trouble with the old way.
I use \cite{anyone}and then
\begin{thebibliography}{9}
\bibitem{anyone}...
\end{thebibliography}{9}
 
Pengwuino said:
Can someone tell me if the 1st edition of The Latex Companion is pretty much still usable in terms of learning the details of using latex? It's 17 years old and I know this is probably something that isn't constantly changing but I'd just like to get everyones opinions.

I tried using bibtex for my references in a paper I'm writing and woo, what a disaster that was. Lucky to get out of that with my head still on. KTHX!

Can't you just use "A (not so) short introduction to LaTeX"?? tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort.pdf
 
I found The Latex Companion to be rather frustrating to find things in. I'm with the others: try using online resources to start with.
 
The best one I have found is "A Guide to LaTeX" by Kopka and Daly.

There is also a lot of nice stuff on the internet, but I think it is easier to reference the book for more general things - Kopka & Daly also has a nice section on Bibtex. I think bibtex is worth learning.
 
one tiny problem with oetiker is he tends to insult people who find Tex puzzling. This makes it harder to read him enjoyably. It may help to avoid sentences containing the words "hamster" or "stupid".
 

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