The Phosphorus Cycle: Gas or No Gas?

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The discussion centers around the phosphorus cycle and the states of elements. A participant recalls a biology class where the teacher stated that phosphorus cannot exist as a gas, leading to confusion given that elements can exist in four states. Another contributor clarifies that while phosphorus can technically be a gas, it rarely occurs as such in nature due to temperature constraints, particularly within the biosphere where it primarily exists as inorganic phosphates. The conversation also touches on whether all elements can exist in all four states, confirming that they can, with the exception of helium, which may remain liquid at absolute zero under normal pressure conditions. The dialogue suggests that the initial claim about phosphorus was likely a miscommunication regarding its presence in the phosphorus cycle.
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My last chemistry class was in the 7th grade (currently 10th grader) so bear with me. Last year duing a biology class we were talking about ecology and how phosphorus would cycle through the environment. The reason that the phosphorus cycle is interesting is because phosphorus cannot be a gas, or so my teacher said. I Immediatly questioned this because in my chemistry class i remeber hearing that elements can be in any of the 4 states, but my teacher insisted that it could not. So, who was right?
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He probably meant within a living organism. Phosphoros bnoils at just over 500o (like maybe 550?).
 
Your teacher was right. Technically phosphorous can be a gas, but not in the biosphere, the temperature never gets hot enough. And besides, it doesn't occur as elemental phosphorous in the cycle but as inorganic phosphates.
 
There are detectable phosphines floating about in the biosphere in the vapor phase --- that said, the quantity is probably insignificant as far as atmospheric transport of phosphorus.
 
I agree with him that natural vaporizing phosphorus in nature is a rare sight, but he claimed that it couldn't be a gas at all. Or maybe it was just a miscomunication.
But this brings up another question. Can all the elements be in all the 4 states?
 
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I agree with him that natural vaporizing phosphorus in nature is a rare sight, but he claimed that it couldn't be a gas at all. Or maybe it was just a miscomunication.
But this brings up another question. Can all the elements be in all the 4 states?

I'm thinking it was a miscommunication. He probably meant it couldn't be a gas in the context of the phosphorous cycle.

To answer your question, yes, all elements can exist in all 4 states, with one exception. It is believed that helium will remain a liquid at absolute zero, but of course we'll never know.
 
Ahh, that's good to know. I was wondering about that for awhile. I have heard the same about helium, but i thought it was it cannot become a solid at absolute zero at 1 atmosphere of presure. I think that if the presure is increased it can become a solid.
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