Theoretical and experimental physics.

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of being both a theoretical and experimental physicist in contemporary research environments. Participants explore the relationship between theory and experiment, the nature of specialization in physics, and the potential for interdisciplinary work.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is still possible to be both a theoretical and experimental physicist today, referencing Enrico Fermi as an example.
  • There is a suggestion that a broad range of topics exists between experimental and theoretical physics, though specifics are not fully defined.
  • One participant proposes that simulation tasks occupy a middle ground, being neither purely experimental nor purely theoretical.
  • Another participant argues that theory and experiment often have a closer relationship than perceived, citing examples from granular matter theory and experimental biophysics.
  • Concerns are raised about the specialization in large fields of physics, which may contribute to the perception of a divide between theory and experiment.
  • There is an acknowledgment that the degree of separation between theory and experiment may depend on the specific research area and the density of researchers in that field.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the vagueness of the original question and wonders if clarity will come with further education and research experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of being both a theoretical and experimental physicist today. Multiple competing views on the relationship between theory and experiment are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying perceptions of the relationship between theoretical and experimental physics, with some participants emphasizing the overlap and others noting the specialization that can occur in larger fields.

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Enrico Fermi was a successful theoretical and experimental physicist. Is this still something that someone can do, or is it practically impossible today?
If it is pissible how can someone achieve this?
 
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There is a broad range of topics/activities somewhere between experimental and theoretical physics.
 


mfb said:
There is a broad range of topics/activities somewhere between experimental and theoretical physics.

Can you elaborate on what those topics/activities are?
 
In general, all simulation tasks can be considered as something in between - they are not real experiments (you don't construct anything), but they are not pure theory either (you don't develop a new theory).
 
I think in many branches of physics theory and experiment have a closer relationship than is widely perceived. For example, it is not particularly uncommon for a granular matter theorist to turn to experiments but still continue contributing to theory papers (though in joint projects with former colleagues). I've seen quite a lot of experimental biophysicists proposing a theory model for some results they measured (or doing measurements to prove a model they themselved proposed) - something one would probably file under "theory", usually. And a neuroscience "experimental physics" professor comes to my mind who investigates learning and adaptive behavior on robots - which certainly has an experimental blend, but also contains a large fraction of what a theoretical physicist would spend his time with.

The perception of theory and experiment being detached (which they really shouldn't be) possibly comes from the big fields (solid state physics, particle physics, possibly even astrophysics) where a huge number of people works on essentially the same thing and, as a result, work becomes extremely specialized. And from the "all physics is Strings and Cosmology" Pop-Sci culture, of course.
 
So basically it all down to specialization and what area you conduct research in?
 
I would certainly not want to boil down what I said to a single definite sentence. Particularly not based on the very vague question posed (how do you define "being a successful theoretical and experimental physicist", for example?). What I meant to say is that theory and experiment are not neccessarily well separated - neither by scientific content (where obviously some overlap has to exist), nor by personell. And that the degree to which a separation is pronounced may depends on the field, with the separation increasing with the researcher/topic density. Also note that this is just my feeling/impression from having worked as a theoretical physicist in two different fields, not the result of a scientific study or a well-formed and evidence backed-up opinion.
 
I understand my question is vague, that comes from my own ignorance and I apoligize about it.
Is this something I will learn once I finish undergrad and start doing research?
 

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