Thermal Processes: Determine T3

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The problem involves a 1.20 mol sample of an ideal monatomic gas undergoing a three-step thermal process, with a focus on determining the temperature T3 after specific transformations, including adiabatic expansion and isobaric compression.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the energy changes during the adiabatic process and the implications for the subsequent isobaric process. There are suggestions to work backwards from T1 to find T3 and to consider the volume relationships at different stages of the process.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly focusing on the relationships between temperature, pressure, and volume throughout the steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find the pressure at the end of step (2) to determine T3.

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There is an emphasis on the ideal gas behavior and the specific conditions of each step in the process, including the adiabatic and isobaric transformations. The original poster has provided some energy calculations but has not yet reached a conclusion regarding T3.

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Homework Statement



A 1.20mol sample of an ideal monatomic gas, originally at a pressure of 1.00 atm, undergoes a three-step process: (1) it is expanded adiabatically from T1 = 592k to T2 = 390k ; (2) it is compressed at constant pressure until its temperature reaches T3; (3) it then returns to its original pressure and temperature by a constant-volume process.

Determine T3.

Homework Equations



E= 3/2 nRT

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So from T1 to T2, change in energy is -3022.97J. E at T1 8859.398J and E at T2 is 5836.4284J. From T2 to T3, it's isobaric. i found initial volume (at T1) to be .0583m^3. how do i go from here?
 
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So what is your question exactly? You might want to work backwards from T1 to help you determine T3 if that's what your after.
 
What does step 3 tell you about the volume at the end of step (2)?
 
the volume at the end of step (2) is the same volume as the volume at T1.
 
So now you just need to find the pressure at the end of step (2), and you'll have T_3.
 

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